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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 04:11 PM Feb 2015

Horrific Florida Bill Would Imprison Trans People for Using Public Bathrooms

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/02/06/florida_bill_would_imprison_trans_people_for_using_public_bathrooms.html

Gay marriage has been legal in Florida for a month now, and at this point, even the state’s hardcore conservatives seem increasingly resigned to the fact that marriage equality is here to stay. Accordingly, Florida’s more bigoted legislators have decided to turn their ire toward another maligned, disfavored minority—trans people—by proposing one of the most viciously sadistic, hypocritical bills the legislature has ever considered.

The basic purpose of the bill is quite simple: to forbid trans people from using the public bathroom that matches their true gender. According to the bill’s text, any trans person who enters a “single-sex public facility” that doesn’t match their “biological sex” is guilty of a first-degree misdemeanor. A “single-sex public facility” includes bathrooms “maintained by an owner of public accommodations, a school, or a place of employment”—basically, any public bathroom in the entire state. Any trans person who violates the act could be sentenced to one year in prison.

It gets much, much worse. Any non-trans person who discovers a trans person using a bathroom that doesn’t align with their “biological sex” would be permitted to sue that trans person under the act. (If sued successfully, the trans person would have to pay their accuser’s attorney fees.) And, in a final turn of the screw, an “owner of public accommodations, a school, or a place of employment” who allows a trans person to use the bathroom of their true gender is liable for a civil suit. In other words, if a store owner does not actively prevent trans people from using her bathrooms, she can be sued by other customers. And of course, if the trans-friendly store owner is found to have allowed a trans person to use the bathroom, she’ll not only have to pay damages to disgruntled customers—she’ll also have to pay their attorney’s fees.

The obvious intent of this bill is to humiliate trans people by opening them up to criminal and civil liability merely for performing the most basic of bodily functions. Trans people already face harassment, discrimination, and sometimes violence while attempting to use the bathroom. This bill would effectively give anti-trans harassers the state’s blessing, while providing them a new avenue through which to shame trans Floridians—the court system. Many trans people are already anxious about using public bathrooms; some are afraid to leave their homes given the risk of verbal and physical abuse they face in public facilities. With this bill, the state would effectively legalize anti-trans harassment, sending a resounding message to trans people that they are not welcome in public life.
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Horrific Florida Bill Would Imprison Trans People for Using Public Bathrooms (Original Post) steve2470 Feb 2015 OP
The Christian Right is no better than ISIS jpak Feb 2015 #1
But but but there is NO difference in the parties, right? NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #2
Don't worry that will be the top reced thread tomorrow. iandhr Feb 2015 #5
I used a men's room once... Kalidurga Feb 2015 #3
Hell, I've been in co-ed/unisex saunas and showers in Germany... pangaia Feb 2015 #13
The big deal is manufactured. Kalidurga Feb 2015 #17
I used a woman's room once. Initech Feb 2015 #18
Fuck Floriduh. nt City Lights Feb 2015 #4
Horrific... yuiyoshida Feb 2015 #6
Time to call State Rep. Frank Artiles, Republican from Miami, at (850) 717-5118 and (305) 252-4300 steve2470 Feb 2015 #7
OMG MoonRiver Feb 2015 #8
What the fuck is WRONG with these cretins? hifiguy Feb 2015 #9
they are sociopaths vlyons Feb 2015 #15
How can I rec the OP? SCVDem Feb 2015 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author steve2470 Feb 2015 #11
I know what you mean. MoonRiver Feb 2015 #12
Florida; the unflushed toilet bowl of the United States. TRoN33 Feb 2015 #14
My guess is they have some deep rooted irrational anxiety about...well...YOU KNOW HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #16

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
3. I used a men's room once...
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 04:31 PM
Feb 2015

even worse I aided and abetted other women using it as well. It was mutiny. The line for the ladies room was at least 50 people long. The men's line 5-10 people long at the most. So, I walzed in with a couple ladies and asked another couple to stand guard, this was during the gap when there were no men in line at all. The ladies line was thru in minutes after that.

I think restrooms should just go unisex. Europe survives this atrocity and it seems without trauma.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
17. The big deal is manufactured.
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 06:30 PM
Feb 2015

Now I will grant you that in my 20's I would have been shocked if co-ed had been suddenly the rule of the land. But, today not so much.

Initech

(100,079 posts)
18. I used a woman's room once.
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 08:21 PM
Feb 2015

Don't laugh - I was at a concert at a relatively small venue and one of the men's room toilets had overflowed, so they had security out and made everyone use the remaining restroom. It was kind of weird but some of the guys in attendance enjoyed the experience just a little too much.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
6. Horrific...
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 04:44 PM
Feb 2015

legal discrimination. Just horrific, and if they pass this, does it open the door too racial discrimination as well?

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
7. Time to call State Rep. Frank Artiles, Republican from Miami, at (850) 717-5118 and (305) 252-4300
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 05:22 PM
Feb 2015
A Miami Republican has filed a Florida House bill that would limit — some say “invalidate” — transgender nondiscrimination ordinances throughout the state.

State Rep. Frank Artiles on Wednesday filed HB 583, titled “Single-Sex Public Facilities.”


Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/gay-south-florida/article9390389.html#storylink=cpy

The proposed bill: http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=53629

His website: http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Representatives/details.aspx?MemberId=4529
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
9. What the fuck is WRONG with these cretins?
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 05:31 PM
Feb 2015

What is their point, other than the ones under their hats?

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
15. they are sociopaths
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 05:45 PM
Feb 2015

and scared to death that someone will see their little willie, when they pee.

Response to SCVDem (Reply #10)

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
16. My guess is they have some deep rooted irrational anxiety about...well...YOU KNOW
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 05:51 PM
Feb 2015

the name of the senator...

Probably acquired by the rejection they interpreted from the screwed up face of their mother as she changed their diapers.

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