Can't understand all the outrage about Brian Williams lying. Fox news has been doing it for decades

[still_one]

and the media has been turning their head on that

[DearAbby]

1. Can we get an Amen!

[roguevalley]

17. THERE IS MORE:

he said he saw a body float past from his hotel window in the French Quarter during Katrina and caught dysentary drinking water. Neither happened. Check the news. Bloggers are exposing more.

[leftynyc]

33. The hotel he was at was just outside

the French quarter and further digging has shown that hotel was surrounded by water:

A Times-Picayune account from Sept. 1, 2005, cites a hotel manager describing the hotel as being surrounded by water, and discussing the Ritz’ efforts to evacuate guests. A subsequent report on Sept. 8 by the same reporter, Rebecca Mowbray, says the Ritz sustained significant flood damage and was shuttered. It would remain closed for at least 15 months while it invested $100 million plus in a renovation of the property, according to news accounts.

http://theadvocate.com/news/neworleans/neworleansnews/11532588-123/katrina-photos-show-water-did

[elleng]

2. Really!

[Baclava]

3. This just in...

[BlueJazz]

4. Yep. When first hearing of this "great atrocity", my first thought was "Boy, talk about not seeing..

...the elephant in the room"

I don't get it either still_one.

[ffr]

35. Until there are no more journalists and we're left with Fox Entertainment

You nailed what I've been thinking the whole time, but you were able to put it into words.

[BlueJazz]

39. Thank you!

[tularetom]

5. WTF? He's not as bad as focksnooze so it's okay for him to lie?

Sorry, I'm not buying that. The momentum is building to get an obsequious republican sycophant fired. We don't need any comparisons with fox to distract from that. Let him go, he's no loss.

[Pacifist Patriot]

6. That is not remotely what the OP is saying.

[Fred Sanders]

12. Arguing with oneself on a different premise is popular.

[Scuba]

19. Snort!

[Malraiders]

7. Conspiracy theory - OP's conclusion may have been MSM's plan all along. nt

[FLyellowdog]

8. I don't think that Williams

had intent to lie to the public. I think he actually believed the incident happened as he reported and the inaccuracies were made as honest mistakes.

He was in a helicopter...so he misnamed it. Big deal.
The helicopter did receive hostile fire....so he made an error about what type of firepower was used. So what?
I'm sure he did feel afraid for his life...they were being fired on. Normal reaction.

He made mistakes and takes full responsibility for doing so. People need to get a grip.

[glinda]

20. I agree.

Believe this is with intention to bring down one of the more honest and liberal voices. He generally appears careful with his wording.

[leftynyc]

34. Brian Williams

is no liberal. No liberal would ever say they not only listen to rush, they enjoy him.

[hopemountain]

27. his apology was sincere

traumatic events can get fuzzy over time - and unless, you, yourself, has suffered a traumatic event, you have no idea. trauma affects people differently.

[KamaAina]

9. 'Cause Bryun Wilyums is part of the lib'rul media!

[blkmusclmachine]

10. IOKIYAR

[99th_Monkey]

11. I totally agree. This whole "Williams Lied!" hysteria is utterly ridiculous

a tempest in a teapot, if ever there was one.

[Fred Sanders]

13. Not the point of the OP.

[99th_Monkey]

15. Your snark is duly noted

The OP stated they don't understand all the outrage, when (for example) FOX lies 24/7.

I agree and do feel that the level of vitriol being hurled at Williams over this is both excessive and sorely misplaced.

What was "the point" of your post again?

[Prism]

14. Because it's win-win for the Right and schadenfreude for journalists

If Brian Williams can be painted as a fabulist, they can declare him emblematic of the liberal media (anyone except Fox). If Brian Williams is not fired, then they can use his presence to cast doubt on every future story. There is zero downside for them.

In media circles, Williams is a big fish. People don't ascend to his lofty perch without making some enemies. Already, you're seeing people at NBC like Brokaw and others back-biting to other media sources. Williams probably stepped on some toes, screwed some people. And now his blood is in the water. It's endless glee for them. And if Williams is in fact the kind of narcissistic asshole these stories are revealing, well, the line must be forming to plunge those daggers in.

Frankly, given what's come up, I'm honestly shocked this did not come out like ten years ago.

[Fred Sanders]

21. The downside is Williams and NBC fire back at Fox..long overdue by all the "liberal" media.

Expose Fox, MSM ....now is your chance to make some amends for all your daily distractions.

Fox does the lying, the rest of the media does the distraction, time for that ridiculous state of affairs to end.

[Bluenorthwest]

16. Because FoxNews is a low rated niche market entertainment while NBC News has a reputation for

far better journalism over many years. NBC Nightly News has more viewers on a single night than any Fox News show has in 3 of it's best nights, which is to say NBC has an audience.
NBC's Huntley-Brinkley Report provided what many consider to be the best coverage of the Civil Rights movement starting in the 50's, Fox has never had even one reporter as good as Frank McGee, John Chancellor, Edwin Newman, or Sander Vanocur nor anchors of the stature of Chet and David nor of Tom Brokaw.
If you see FoxNews as some standard of quality and excellence I don't know what to tell you.

[RockaFowler]

30. This is the answer

NBC News is supposed to be better than this.

Oh and NBC Nightly News receives more viewers in 1 night then FOX gets in a week.

Brian Williams should be above lying to his audience. The fact that there are now multiple stories about his lying is very disheartening.

[Android3.14]

36. Where did you hear that bit of nonsense?

I wish it were true, but unfortunately FNC is often the channel viewers watch the most.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/02/03/cable-news-ratings-for-saturday-sunday-january-31-february-1-2015/358564/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/30/fox-news-cable-news-ratings_n_6398220.html

What is the deal with this surge in misinformation from the left?

[olddots]

18. sing along !

With Ethel Merman .

"The news business is snooze business . This will get us thru the weekend then its fear , fear ,fear followed by outrage , fear and a human interest story about pop culture icon MC Strudel's brand of sex toys for the rich and famous .

[pintobean]

22. You want Fox setting the standard?

Maybe Williams should be replaced with a pretty young blonde woman.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

23. If Fox lies it's not news; they're expected to lie. But Williams is expected to not lie.

And certainly not with self-aggrandizing myths.

[KeepItReal]

40. ^^^ THIS ^^^

Yep.

[cleduc]

24. In the worst case,

(and I'm still trying to sort fact from fiction in the various reports), Williams may have fibbed to elevate his profile.

FOX "News" fibs to deceive the public about issues and promote Republicans.

I find what FOX does is far more harmful to American democracy where the media is supposed to be the great arbitrator and fairly inform.

[HereSince1628]

25. I can. HRC presented a similar war-story. Whacking Williams is a set up

that will demand similar treatment of HRC

Please don't blame me, I just remember these things...


http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/24/clinton-misspoke-about-bosnia-trip-campaign-says/?_r=0

[Raine1967]

32. I think this will become a problem for HRC.

The problem is (and it is a problem) HRC is a politician, and sadly the bar is lower for this sort of stuff when it comes to politicians.

I really wish she had not fudged the truth about that.

[City Lights]

26. I think it has to do with everyone being held to a higher

standard than Fox. No one expects Fox to tell the truth, despite what its viewers believe.

[slumcamper]

28. This has been a good week for truth.

For so long, media lies and deception have prevailed, and our society is much worse for it. Between the media focus on Williams's prevarications and the antivax frauds and misinformation, the moment is ripe for other media networks to take Fox to task for the giant right-wing lie and disinformation machine that it is!

[obnoxiousdrunk]

29. Fox has

a court order that says it's ok to lie...

[Raine1967]

31. I think it's probably that people hold him to a higher standard than Faux news.

I'm still pissed that Dan Rather got fired for TELLING THE TRUTH. Either way, maybe this will wake the sheeple up.

I am -- in the end — an optimist…

I am not saying it's right, but I think this shows how much a propaganda channel Faux really is.

[Ichingcarpenter]

37. “The liar's punishment is

“The liar's punishment is, not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else.”
― George Bernard Shaw


“A storyteller makes up things to help other people; a liar makes up things to help himself.”
― Daniel Wallace



“If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.”
― Mark Twain



“A lie that is half-truth is the darkest of all lies.”
― Alfred Tennyson



“If you don't want to slip up tomorrow, speak the truth today.”
― Bruce Lee


.............politicans and news pundits lie

[truebluegreen]

38. We expect it from Fux Entertainment...

not from the "real" networks...but after the collective cheerleading for the Iraq War, and crap like this, I think we need to revise our expectations.