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Point: Dan RATHER's reporting was TRUE (about Shrub's military elitist scam). n/t (Original Post) UTUSN Feb 2015 OP
Everything was true but the false copy of the true document TexasProgresive Feb 2015 #1
Pont: Williams was saying "thank you" jeff47 Feb 2015 #2
My point was about Dan only, sort of an underscoring/highlighting. But I think wingnuts will be UTUSN Feb 2015 #3
I've been saying the same thing. nt RiffRandell Feb 2015 #4
Of course! annabanana Feb 2015 #5
AWOL Bush was a true story derailed by deliberately planted bogus source material. pa28 Feb 2015 #6
Correct - and Karl Rove reproduced the EXACT LETTER... dirtydickcheney Feb 2015 #7
I'm still waiting for an explanation about how Slick dodged his flight physical in Jun 72 sarge43 Feb 2015 #8
I completely agree. usaf-vet Feb 2015 #9
Thanks, Doc sarge43 Feb 2015 #10
TANG works much differently from active duty Major Nikon Feb 2015 #11
I'm sure sarge43 Feb 2015 #15
I couldn't have a lower opinion of Dubya. Enthusiast Feb 2015 #14
I knew that. Have Duval Feb 2015 #12
K&R! I knew that. Enthusiast Feb 2015 #13

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
1. Everything was true but the false copy of the true document
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 12:50 PM
Feb 2015

This was rovian misdirection at its best or worst. It did 2 things discredited the true story of babybush's military service and as a bonus got rid of Rather, the perennial thorn in their side. Much as I can't stand rove one must admire his strategic ability.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
2. Pont: Williams was saying "thank you"
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 12:56 PM
Feb 2015

Williams was not claiming we need to invade because of an RPG. He was not saying "Look at what a badass I am". He was saying "thanks for protecting me".

Memory does not work the way we wish it did. For some on how memory actually works, try reading this:
http://www.newyorker.com/science/maria-konnikova/idea-happened-memory-recollection?intcid=mod-most-popular

UTUSN

(70,695 posts)
3. My point was about Dan only, sort of an underscoring/highlighting. But I think wingnuts will be
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 01:12 PM
Feb 2015

ecstatic to get rid of WILLIAMS, from their own perverted perspective of things.

Again, Dan was a stand-alone thing.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
5. Of course!
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 01:26 PM
Feb 2015

We all knew that at the time. But CorpoMedia didn't even have Keith Olbermann saying anything different. This was before his apotheosis.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
6. AWOL Bush was a true story derailed by deliberately planted bogus source material.
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 01:36 PM
Feb 2015

Roger Stone, the Republican political operative claims credit for fooling Rather with the phony document and killing the story. There was no deliberate deception on Rather's part.

I'm not sure how NBC can rationalize letting Williams keep his job after this.

 

dirtydickcheney

(242 posts)
7. Correct - and Karl Rove reproduced the EXACT LETTER...
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 01:53 PM
Feb 2015

Karl Rove reproduced the EXACT LETTER that was used just using new fonts... all knowing he could point back to it later in calling it a "fraud" because "that font didn't exist"

But the fact that the Monkeyboy president was a complete part of the 'Champagne Unit' was completely true.

And Dan Rather ... he's just expendable, as are most people in the right-wing mind.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
8. I'm still waiting for an explanation about how Slick dodged his flight physical in Jun 72
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 02:27 PM
Feb 2015

and got away with it.

The USAF personnel management system I was in for 20 years (62 to 83) would have handed a jock his head and other body parts for that stunt. Among other things, "failure to complete annual flight physical" would have resulted in a board of inquiry, then probably a reclassification or release with cause. None of which happened.

For the remaining two years in TANG, Shrub wasn't qualified in any specialty. He was never reinstated on flight status nor was he trained in any other AFSC. In short, tax payers popped for about a million bucks so he could put in about 68 flight hours, re his AF Form 11. He started pissing away our money long before he and Cheney got to the WH.

As for the AWOL, technically he probably wasn't. His commander knew about it, probably ordered under the table to let him disappear. The Reserve personnel center never issued orders reassigning him from Ellington AFB.

And the son of bitch strutted across the deck of USS Lincoln wearing a flight suit, packing socks.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
11. TANG works much differently from active duty
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 03:28 PM
Feb 2015

During the time Shrub as in and for many years after, it was pretty hard to get kicked out unless you tried.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
14. I couldn't have a lower opinion of Dubya.
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 03:37 PM
Feb 2015

Since that stolen 2,000 election the nation has never been the same. Dubya truly was a transformative president.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
12. I knew that. Have
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 03:30 PM
Feb 2015

you read "Fortunate Son", by Hatfield? It was finally published. If Dan Rather had been able to make that report, Bush would have never been President. But, our Corporate Media caved. It's an interesting book!


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