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I pledge to forever shut up about US atrocities when... (Original Post) redgreenandblue Feb 2015 OP
Not very bi-partisan of you. blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #1
+100 ND-Dem Feb 2015 #2
Deal! KansDem Feb 2015 #3
And when we stop droning people, overthowing governments and assassinating people BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #4
But, but, we've got to do those things, BrotherIvan, jamesatemple Feb 2015 #9
Wow, did you write that from inside my head? BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #14
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^n/t truedelphi Feb 2015 #16
Deal libodem Feb 2015 #5
No deal- I will always remember and speak the truth about history. canoeist52 Feb 2015 #6
Sounds like someone needs a rat cage put on their face. zeemike Feb 2015 #10
??? canoeist52 Feb 2015 #11
It is a reference to the Orwell book 1984 zeemike Feb 2015 #12
Sadly, with Reality TV replacing truedelphi Feb 2015 #17
And I am afraid you are right. zeemike Feb 2015 #19
Thanks zeemike. truedelphi Feb 2015 #23
Ha! I see - I forgot about that scenario. canoeist52 Feb 2015 #21
I might have forgotten it too had I not seen the movie. zeemike Feb 2015 #22
Now, now, don't be sanctimonious. Just look forward... Scuba Feb 2015 #7
dont forget reparations reddread Feb 2015 #8
Shouldn't each case be decided on its own merits treestar Feb 2015 #13
And when killing innocent civilians by drones is truedelphi Feb 2015 #15
Liberals aren't allowed to make pledges i.e. voting for whomever wins Democratic primary. great white snark Feb 2015 #18
K&R! I'm with you. Enthusiast Feb 2015 #20

jamesatemple

(342 posts)
9. But, but, we've got to do those things, BrotherIvan,
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 08:34 AM
Feb 2015

to secure corporate oil interests and kill all those brown-skinned people whom we have pissed off simply by invading their countries and attempting to destroy their cultures. I know, I know, it is our manifest destiny to destroy cultures, remove them from their native lands, and steal their resources by making deals with the head honchos wherein the big kahuna gets fabulously wealthy, we get the goods, and the natives get nothing but seething hatred for us. What is the matter with those people?" But, don't they understand that that is the very way our great country came about? Can't they just write a letter or e-mail any American Indian and get the lowdown on how things should work? What is all the fuss about?

Don't they understand that we must have their resources in order to support the lifestyles of the rich and famous uber wealthy while our middle class disappears into poverty? Jeez, the nerve of those people! Oh, sure, we could invest our vast resources into developing alternative energy sources but that would put the lazy freeloaders of our great Country to work, a terrible situation that might deprive our wealthy 1% of acquiring every last dollar. So, bring on the drones, overthrow governments under the guise of democratizing them, and assassinate any who oppose. And, we must do it quickly before that significant group of American citizens who deplore such action gains more strength, more say into how the Country is run. Why, the first thing you know, those misguided folks will have health care for all; jobs for any who desire them; guaranteed educational opportunities; and a social safety net. But, not to worry, BrotherIvan, those radicals and their stupid ideas can be held in check so long as the Supreme Court, mega-powerful corporations, filthy rich power brokers buying legislators, and a plethora of voters continue to vote against their own interests merely to show that "edicated people don't know shit", continue to have unrestrained power.

But, you know, my friend, I'm an old man now and may not live to see it but I sense a groundswell of ordinary folks rising to the task of overcoming all the barriers, making a new manifest destiny based upon the dignity of all peoples.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
14. Wow, did you write that from inside my head?
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 03:08 PM
Feb 2015

Because it sounds exactly like something I would write. Agree 100%.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
12. It is a reference to the Orwell book 1984
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 11:24 AM
Feb 2015

Where Winston Smith refused to say that 2+2 equals 5...untill they threatened to put a cage full of hungry rats on his face.
That movie is a classic and I thought every one would get it.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
17. Sadly, with Reality TV replacing
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 08:32 PM
Feb 2015

the programming of earlier generations, many people don't know about classic books.

I am always glad when the Sci Fi channel has a marathon of the old Twilight Zone series, as those shows tried to make people think. But very little in the Nation's Youthful Consciousness allows for any real instruction.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
19. And I am afraid you are right.
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 09:10 PM
Feb 2015

And it is not their fault, they were just born into this world and accept what they get...and basically we did not give them shit...(not we personally but as a society)
We allowed our schools to become factories that turned out a product instead of teaching them to think and learn.

But the bright side is that a lot of the old stuff is on you tube now...so it is not lost just forgotten.

I guess I should have posted this to explain...

canoeist52

(2,282 posts)
21. Ha! I see - I forgot about that scenario.
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 09:13 AM
Feb 2015

Haven't read that since 1969. Maybe it's time for me to revisit.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
22. I might have forgotten it too had I not seen the movie.
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 09:47 AM
Feb 2015

But I too read it in the 60s.
But the movie that came out in 1984 was top notch and Orwell would have been proud of it.
And that scene was fixed firmly in my mind.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
15. And when killing innocent civilians by drones is
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 08:23 PM
Feb 2015

Actually taken seriously by this current Administration.

All the more important as The Powers that Be are figuring out how they can substitute drones for patrol cars here in the USA.

great white snark

(2,646 posts)
18. Liberals aren't allowed to make pledges i.e. voting for whomever wins Democratic primary.
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 09:00 PM
Feb 2015

Or so I've been told..

Having said that why would you ever stop calling out atrocities?

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
20. K&R! I'm with you.
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 06:11 AM
Feb 2015

I like the new Marine's commercial. If they're really a force to stop global injustice and tyranny.

They could start here.

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