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niyad

(113,329 posts)
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 11:31 PM Feb 2015

UT puke Pretty Sure You Can’t Rape Your Wife, Cuz, Like, She’s Your Wife

Utah Republican Pretty Sure You Can’t Rape Your Wife, Cuz, Like, She’s Your Wife



Rep. Brian Greene (R-Confused)

It sure is tricky to know when it it OK to rape a lady or other kind of person.* Like, if that person is unconscious and can’t say “Yes, please sex me so good, baby,” that might be rape, right? The Utah legislature thinks maybe that is right, so it is debating a bill, H.B. 74 Consent Definition for Sexual Offense, to clarify that, among other things, “when the defendant knows the victim is unconscious or unaware, the provision requiring proof that the victim has not consented is removed.”

Good idea! Seems basic enough. But hang on, hang on. Rep. Brian Greene, the distinguished lifelong Republican and family man from Pleasant Grove, who is also a member of the member of the Utah State Bar, the National Rifle Association, and the Tenth Amendment Center, has a Very Important Point on this matter:
“If an individual has sex with their wife while she is unconscious … a prosecutor could then charge that spouse with rape, theoretically,” said Rep. Brian Greene, R-Pleasant Grove.” That makes sense in a first date scenario, but to me, not where people have a history of years of sexual activity.”

So, in Brian Greene’s world, if you do sex to a lady when she is blacked out on a first date when you have only bought her the surf and turf special one time, that is rape because she cannot say “Yes, let’s have sex.” But if you have bought her so many dinners and flowers and a forever-diamond ring, and she has washed the poo stains from your undies and put up with your mother through a whole bunch of awkward holiday dinners … well, come on. She must want it, right? How could she not? Even if she is too unconscious to say, “Yes, I want it,” given that she has wanted it all those other times, certainly she wouldn’t mind this one time.
This is what keeps Brian Greene up at night, while his wife is asleep next to him, probably hoping he’s too concerned about work … given their “history of years” and all. But look, it’s not like Brian is saying it is OK to bang a lady when she’s unconscious ALL the time, because “it’s abhorrent” to him. He’s just askin’ questions, like, whether it’s “rape in every instance — dependent only upon the actor’s knowledge that the individual is unconscious. That’s the question. That’s what I struggle with.”

Don’t struggle so hard, buddy. The answer is “yes.” If you know the person you are banging is unconscious and can’t say “mmm yes please,” then you should not do that. Even if you are married. And if you do that, and your wife goes to the cops the next day and is all, like, “He banged me in my sleep, the son of a bitch!” then yes, prosecutors should be able to prosecute you for doing rape, even if you have had non-rape sex with her in the past. There’s your answer, you’re welcome, the end.

Read more at http://wonkette.com/574962/utah-republican-pretty-sure-you-cant-rape-your-wife-cuz-like-shes-your-wife#YV2ZPeiyRXQv0jmh.99

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UT puke Pretty Sure You Can’t Rape Your Wife, Cuz, Like, She’s Your Wife (Original Post) niyad Feb 2015 OP
Is the GOP getting all rapey for 2016? onehandle Feb 2015 #1
it does appear that way niyad Feb 2015 #2
"That makes sense in a first date scenario" jberryhill Feb 2015 #3
my guess would be a truly sick and twisted person niyad Feb 2015 #4
I fell asleep during once jberryhill Feb 2015 #5
Correction: You Can’t Rape Your Wife, Cuz, Like, She’s Your PROPERTY Triana Feb 2015 #6
exactly niyad Feb 2015 #8
WTF? Egnever Feb 2015 #7
sickening, isn't it? niyad Feb 2015 #9
. . . . niyad Feb 2015 #10
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. "That makes sense in a first date scenario"
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 11:50 PM
Feb 2015

Wait, wait, don't tell me. His wife passed out on their first date.

"...but to me, not where people have a history of years of sexual activity.”

You know... I've been married since 1989 with a couple of years between my first and second, and I can't ONCE think of a time when I have even had to ponder engaging in sexual activity with an unconscious spouse.

Who does that?

niyad

(113,329 posts)
4. my guess would be a truly sick and twisted person
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 11:51 PM
Feb 2015

hey, an unconscious person cannot judge one's performance, or lack thereof.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. I fell asleep during once
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 11:56 PM
Feb 2015

But that is about as close as I can come to guessing what might be going on in this man's frightful imagination.
 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
6. Correction: You Can’t Rape Your Wife, Cuz, Like, She’s Your PROPERTY
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 02:53 AM
Feb 2015

That's what (some) men really mean when they say that. Because if that wasn't what they meant, they wouldn't be saying that. Period.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
7. WTF?
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 03:15 AM
Feb 2015

So this dude has sex with his wife while she is passed out? Sure sounds like he does.

I don't get that at all.

Admittedly I can't figure out for the life of me why you would want to have sex with an unconscious person in the first place.
The idea that doing so is somehow ok because the person is your spouse is doubly confusing.

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