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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 09:05 AM Feb 2015

Hey, Tea Party: Latin Was the Language of Ancient Rome

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/02/02/1361916/-Hey-Tea-Party-Latin-Was-the-Language-of-Ancient-Rome

In Vermont, an eighth-grade girl who was studying Latin wrote a letter to the Minority Leader of the Vermont Senate suggesting that Vermont should have a Latin motto, in addition to -- but not replacing -- the official English motto ("Freedom and Unity&quot . So, the people involved came up with this:

Stella quarta decima fulgeat. The translation: “May the Fourteenth Star Shine Bright,” is a nod to Vermont’s status as the fourteenth state to join the union. Nice. Poetic in both languages.


So then the legislature passes a resolution, which takes very little time and costs no money. Right? Wrong. Guess what happened next?

Here's a post about the story from a Vermont blog: No good deed goes unpunished. Apparently a local TV station did a story about it and got a huge number of incredibly ignorant comments on their Facebook page, here: WCAX: One state senator thinks Vermont should have a Latin motto. What do you think?.

The crazies came out of the woodwork: "If you live in the United States, you need to learn English!" "Vermont ain't no Latino area." "This is America, not Mexico or some other Latin-American country." And so on.

The stupid... it burns.
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Hey, Tea Party: Latin Was the Language of Ancient Rome (Original Post) eridani Feb 2015 OP
That is a nice motto deutsey Feb 2015 #1
Its still the language of scholarly learning and in use... Historic NY Feb 2015 #2
Sempre Fidelis!!! KansDem Feb 2015 #3
What do they expect? hootinholler Feb 2015 #4
I don't know whether to laugh or cry. procon Feb 2015 #5
How does that mercuryblues Feb 2015 #6
And what the hell is with superbowl using arabic numbers Ichingcarpenter Feb 2015 #7
Roman numerals were good enough for Jesus central scrutinizer Feb 2015 #10
And the arabs stole the system from India Ichingcarpenter Feb 2015 #11
The Mayans had place value even earlier but they were heathens, too. central scrutinizer Feb 2015 #12
General Comment: If Vermont goes teabagger, we're all doomed. merrily Feb 2015 #8
Only a minority of state mottoes are in English starroute Feb 2015 #9
Scary level of ignorance. mmonk Feb 2015 #13
De stupidus non disputandum LiberalEsto Feb 2015 #14
I like how the author assumes that all these Vermonters with the stupid comments must be Teabaggers. hughee99 Feb 2015 #15
Montaņa's IS in Spanish: "Oro y Plata" MisterP Feb 2015 #16

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
1. That is a nice motto
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 09:30 AM
Feb 2015

Regarding the morons who made the comments: I'm surprised they were able to figure out how to turn a computer on, let alone type quasi-coherent sentences.

Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
2. Its still the language of scholarly learning and in use...
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 09:41 AM
Feb 2015

from medical, scientific, to legal terminology. I heared they ain't much on bookwork learning...

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
3. Sempre Fidelis!!!
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 10:24 AM
Feb 2015
Hmmm...now where have I heard that before?

Sounds foreign, so probably not from TeaBaggers. They're real Americans!

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
4. What do they expect?
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 10:59 AM
Feb 2015

Of course Latin is spoken by Latinos, Jesus, it's right there.



I have found that lately most of my frustration is trying to fix stoopud. The more I accept that it can't be fixed, the happier I become.

procon

(15,805 posts)
5. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 11:03 AM
Feb 2015

At my father insistence, I had 2 years of Latin in high school; it was the lingua franca of academia. What do these cretins learn in school if they think Latin in the spoken language of Latin America?



Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
7. And what the hell is with superbowl using arabic numbers
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 11:17 AM
Feb 2015

and not roman numerals? 50 vs L???/ come on....

the whole world has gone to shit. Next thing you know we will have to learn algebra another Arabic, mos-lem tyranny

central scrutinizer

(11,662 posts)
10. Roman numerals were good enough for Jesus
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 11:52 AM
Feb 2015

'nuf said - end of argument - get that Arabic place value system outta here.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
8. General Comment: If Vermont goes teabagger, we're all doomed.
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 11:26 AM
Feb 2015

I am generally very proud of Massachusetts but I am not sure even Massachusetts would have sent Democratic Socialist Sander to Congress. Just sayin'

starroute

(12,977 posts)
9. Only a minority of state mottoes are in English
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 11:34 AM
Feb 2015

Reading down the Wikipedia list or state and territory mottoes, I count 24 in Latin, one in Greek, one in Italian (Maryland), one in French (Minnesota), one in Spanish (Montana), one in Chinook Jargon (Washington), one in Samoan, one in Hawaiian.

Just 25 are in English. (Some states have more than one, which is why there are 56 in all.)

Of Vermont's immediate neighbors, Massachusetts and New York's both are in Latin, while New Hampshire's is in English.

So yeah, massive ignorance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_and_territory_mottos

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
13. Scary level of ignorance.
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 12:50 PM
Feb 2015

My red state's motto is Esse Quam Videri. Did tea party people ever attend school?

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
15. I like how the author assumes that all these Vermonters with the stupid comments must be Teabaggers.
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 01:02 PM
Feb 2015

If there's one thing Vermont is known for, it's their teabaggers.

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