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me b zola

(19,053 posts)
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 03:36 PM Feb 2015

Chinese police bust four major baby trafficking rings rescuing 382 abducted infants


Chinese police bust four major baby trafficking rings rescuing 382 abducted infants and arresting nearly 2,000 suspects



Hundreds of babies have been rescued by police in China after a crackdown was launched on trafficking infants.

The nationwide bust saw 1,094 people arrested as officers acted on information relating to four major internet-based baby trafficking rings.

China's Public Security Ministry said 382 babies were rescued after four websites were found to be selling children under the guise of adoption.

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Hundreds of babies have been rescued by police in China after a crackdown was launched on trafficking infants.

The nationwide bust saw 1,094 people arrested as officers acted on information relating to four major internet-based baby trafficking rings.

China's Public Security Ministry said 382 babies were rescued after four websites were found to be selling children under the guise of adoption.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2570484/Chinese-police-bust-four-major-baby-trafficking-rings-rescuing-382-abducted-children-arresting-nearly-2-000-suspects.html#ixzz3QWVQOg3V
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If this story isn't sick enough, read the comment section, where people opine that they would love to take one of the trafficked babies for their own, or the suggestion that adoption laws should be more lax.

Procuring infants and young children for people who desire them is big busine$$, and the black market has always had their hand in the cookie jar.
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me b zola

(19,053 posts)
2. It is not uncommon in countries that "export" infants to western nations for these things to occur
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 12:39 AM
Feb 2015

Look at any of the "hot-spots" for adoption to western nations and you will find an abundance of kidnappers and human traffickers.

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
4. That is what people would like to focus on as the problem...
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 12:55 AM
Feb 2015

In fact, this article did a wonderful hack-job of trying to sell this story as that, when even there own facts got in the way of that story line.

The problem is that the market demands infants and small children, preferable from mothers so poor and without resources that she cannot and never will put up a fight to take back her child. From Eastern Europe to Africa, to Asia, poor women are preyed upon for their children. There is no glut of infants and young children who need families, there is though, a glut of adults who believe that they need other people's infants or young children.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
5. This story is horrible....but not surprising. And I hope people take note that there were four
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 01:05 AM
Feb 2015

separate rings. Where there is one, there are more.

But prospective adoptive parents seem to tell themselves that this would never happen to them or the child they are hoping to form a "forever family" with.

Westerners just assume that the families discarded their daughters so they can have a son. That is often just a cover for the darker side of Chinese orphanages and how they get their children.

And regardless....as long as the one-child policy is in place, with all its ramifications, I don't believe people should even consider adopting from China.

And yes, the comments section is appalling.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
7. I know....it makes my blood boil. Liberals and progressives should be the first people out the door
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 01:54 AM
Feb 2015

to raise the banner of justice. We're the ones who always bring about change. But somehow adoption-related issues just don't resonate with many people, unless it is to sing the praises of the institution. People have a hard time comprehending that when a country is closed off to international adoption, what often happens is not that the orphanages overflow--but rather that they empty out, because the trafficking stops.

Maybe someday we'll wake up, like they did in Australia. That's a fairly conservative country. But they were able to eventually overcome their preconceived notions and recognize the need for reform.

I have an internet friend in the adoption reform community whose estranged SIL just adopted a baby from eastern China. She and her husband are publicly celebrating on FB and the blogosphere, even having their adopted son write about his journey to China to pick up his new sister. My friend and her husband don't know the details of the adoption. But it's pretty clear that this couple hasn't contemplated the possibility that anything sinister could have happened. People just assume that it could never happen to them.

REP

(21,691 posts)
8. Isn't it odd
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 04:11 AM
Feb 2015

There was a post here a few days ago about a woman who abandoned her newborn with Down's Syndrome to the state at birth. Many of the comments were, "how could a mother desert her baby!"

Yet when it comes to adoption, no one asks, "how could a mother desert her baby!" Because they don't want to think about that; that maybe these babies weren't given up voluntarily; that maybe those women wanted their children. It's easier to think about someone getting something they want, even if that "thing" is a helpless child, and of course more money means better parents, right?

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
9. This is adoption's dirty little secret
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 02:00 PM
Feb 2015

That yes, there are some women who voluntarily relinquish their child for adoption. But there are so many others who were coerced into relinquishment, and some children who are "legally" adopted that were straight out stolen. And yes, so much of this illegal and or morally reprehensible behavior is justified by talking points stating that the adoptive parents can give the child a much better (moneyed) life, so who are we to question.

My first mother was a victim of the US's version of the Magdalene Laundries. She was sent off to a home for unwed mothers were she was forced to work-without pay-as a nanny to an upper middle class family until she gave birth to me. All, I'm sure, as a way to shame her into believing that she could never give me what married,wealthy people can offer a child. She was drugged (knocked out)during labor, so she did not get to hold me until 3 days later, and only for 15 minutes. Like the dogs on a dog-food commercial, I was not fed before being brought into her so that I would scream, all to make her feel as though she could never parent me. Like most young women of her time, she was told that if she kept me that she would not be welcomed back into the family. My grandmother only referred to me as "it". Yeah, my mom had no choice, it was a forced relinquishment and it scarred her for life. The (Catholic) church made a lot of money peddling infants and young children to those desperate for a child of their own.

Today the bulk of the most egregious behavior of the adoption industry comes from international adoptions. Like whack-a-mole, child trafficking rings pop up and after selling Gods know how many babies, get shut down only to pop up later in a different country. I have spoken with several inter-country adoptees who were told that they were abandoned or orphaned only to find a completely different story when they searched for their family and found them. This is one reason why the secrecies and lies of adoption must end. If we recognize that most relinquishments occur because of poverty or cultural problems, we could actually markedly reduce the number of children relinquished, and those that are would have their origanal families respected and honored. It really slays me when adoptive families swear that they love their adoptees yet dishonor the adoptee's origanal family and orgins~does not compute because you cannot love someone yet show disdain for the very fiber of who they are.

There are some very simply fixes to end the trend of child trafficking. First, the UN has declared the right of children to own their own parental information, it just is not agreed to by American law. If children have the right to their own information, they are less likely to be trafficked. Secondly, we need to end the socially acceptlable practice of "building a family" from relinquished children. As long as there is a market, there will be a black market, and children will continue to be separated from their families to meet the needs of more financially prosperous families who want a child.

We can make a difference by speaking out even though we will be vilified for doing so.

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