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babylonsister

(171,094 posts)
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 03:05 PM Jan 2015

Israeli Ambassador Throws John Boehner Under The Bus After Disrespect Of Obama Backfires



Israeli Ambassador Throws John Boehner Under The Bus After Disrespect Of Obama Backfires
By: Sarah Jones
Friday, January, 30th, 2015, 1:43 pm

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In an article entitled, “Israeli Ambassador: Netanyahu Never Meant to Disrespect Obama”, Jeffrey Goldberg started off by asking, “It is widely believed (by, among others, me) that you and your government were making an end-run around the White House. Is this not the case?”

To this, Ambassador Ron Dermer rather desperately tried to appeal to the public, “The survival of Israel is not a partisan issue.” And then he got right to the point of tossing the hot ball at the U.S. House Speaker.

From The Atlantic:

Now let me tell you the facts. The speaker’s office initially reached out to me regarding the idea of the prime minister giving a speech less than two weeks before an official invitation was sent. We said that we were open to making such an address and went back and forth with the speaker’s office to see if there were potential dates that could work for the prime minister’s schedule and the congressional calendar. The final decision to invite the prime minister was made by the speaker’s office the day before he was invited—and I was informed of it that afternoon.

It was also made clear to me that it was the speaker’s responsibility and normal protocol for the Speaker’s office to notify the administration of the invitation. That is why I felt it would be inappropriate for me to raise the issue with the administration, including in my meeting with the secretary of state, until the speaker notified them.

The speaker’s office apparently informed the administration about it the morning of the announcement, around two hours before it was publicized. After it was publicized, we were in contact with administration officials, both here and in Jerusalem. We informed them that we wanted to move the date to March 3 so that it could be combined with a visit to AIPAC that the prime minister was also considering. Once that date was cleared with the speaker’s office, the prime minister officially announced that he would accept the invitation to come and speak.


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So now Dermer is tossing Boehner under the Netanyahu speech bus, claiming the end run around protocol was not committed on their end, but on the Speaker’s end.

This fiasco reveals the craven politics of Prime Minister Netanyahu and Speaker John Boehner. Boehner, who is suing President Obama a second time, has made attacking the President his only cover for his inability to govern. He has embarrassed himself suing the President over things all sane legal scholars tell him he can’t win and has no case over. Facing his prolonged legislative impotence, Speaker Boehner reached around the world for a leader as desperate as he and found that person in Netanyahu. Ambassador Dermer was the assist.

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http://www.politicususa.com/2015/01/30/israeli-ambassador-throws-speaker-boehner-netanyahu-speech-bus.html
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Israeli Ambassador Throws John Boehner Under The Bus After Disrespect Of Obama Backfires (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2015 OP
Again, reminder...on election day 2008, the republican party became a criminal terrrorist NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #1
I agree with you. procon Jan 2015 #5
+1 Baitball Blogger Jan 2015 #8
Boehner should be thrown under the bus, and Bibi should have turned down the invitation under Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #2
+1 Tarheel_Dem Jan 2015 #9
I think Dermer is going to be the one who gets squished. Demit Jan 2015 #3
I'm surprised that SOS Kerry hasn't pulled Dermer's ticket vlyons Jan 2015 #13
Boehner, this is the business end of the Dermer Express heading your way. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #4
John Kerry has some house cleaning to do, Wellstone ruled Jan 2015 #6
Dermer works for Netanyahu - not Kerry karynnj Jan 2015 #10
What does this have to do with Victoria Nuland? Cali_Democrat Jan 2015 #12
I just love circular firing squads central scrutinizer Jan 2015 #7
maybe boehner got set up - somebody suggested it to him and certainot Jan 2015 #11
If you believe Dermer's story, I want to talk to you Jack Rabbit Jan 2015 #14
Agreed Sherman A1 Jan 2015 #15
They will find some way to cancel this fiasco malaise Jan 2015 #16

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
1. Again, reminder...on election day 2008, the republican party became a criminal terrrorist
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 03:09 PM
Jan 2015

organization with the STATED goal of destroying the United States

To rebuild it after the black president was disgraced...I think they used the N word myself


but I wasnt in the meeting

What we are accepting as normal now, day after day, was UNHEARD of before these vile and filthy motherfuckers started this crap

procon

(15,805 posts)
5. I agree with you.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 03:53 PM
Jan 2015

Factor in all the bills that in any other circumstances, and under any other president, would have sailed through both chambers with broad bipartisan support, and in denying legislation that was largely based on previous Republican efforts, it is all so transparently petty and damaging to our country.

I said I would never forgive the GOP for their lies in steering the US into 2 needless wars, and since then I condemn the lot of 'em to whatever hell they subscribe to for their roles in engineering the Recession and prolonging the suffering of millions of Americans who lost everything.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. Boehner should be thrown under the bus, and Bibi should have turned down the invitation under
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 03:19 PM
Jan 2015

the circumstances of the Iran negotiations but apparently Bibi thinks it will help his election.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
3. I think Dermer is going to be the one who gets squished.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 03:30 PM
Jan 2015

Sucks to be him. But he was fully a part of the fiasco & this slimy move isn't going to save him. The big boyz all need to save face. I only hope it's too late for Netanyahu, and the Israeli public is fed up enough to toss him out anyway.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
13. I'm surprised that SOS Kerry hasn't pulled Dermer's ticket
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 05:57 PM
Jan 2015

and sent him packing back to Israel. I'll bet he would sure like to. Some great friends, eh? (not)

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
4. Boehner, this is the business end of the Dermer Express heading your way.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 03:39 PM
Jan 2015

Having said that, Dermer is the natural scapegoat, he is the one coincidentally burdened with a proven history of clever deceptions done for his master, Bibi, and is lowest in the pecking order.....this is far from over.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. John Kerry has some house cleaning to do,
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 03:55 PM
Jan 2015

and,these two got to be shit canned now,Dremer and Nuland flush it.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
10. Dermer works for Netanyahu - not Kerry
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 05:12 PM
Jan 2015

Nuland is a foreign policy career professional - the only way she can be fired is for cause.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
11. maybe boehner got set up - somebody suggested it to him and
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 05:30 PM
Jan 2015

he had no clue what the problem was except he thought he could score pts with the base by dissing the WH

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
14. If you believe Dermer's story, I want to talk to you
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 06:09 PM
Jan 2015

I've got some beach front property by the Sea of Tranquility. Do I have a deal for you.

Ambassador Dermer met with Secretary Kerry the day before the speech was announced and told Kerry nothing. He made no attempt to ask the White House about arrangements or security for the Prime Minister. Did the Ambassador assume all this time that Speaker Boehner was handling everything at his end?

We should keep in mind that Ambassador Dermer is the child of a partisan Republican family. I don't know that Ambassador Dermer is the sort of political hack who would tell the Israeli press that President Obama is Kenyan-born Muslim terrorist, but Bibi has made no attempt to hide his disrespect for the President and was no doubt quite pleased at the scheme. He didn't say anything to the White House, either.

A conspiracy of silence concerning a role for the White House appears to have been, if we may put this delicately in good diplomatic style, very likely. Whether that part of the scheme was first mentioned by the Ambassador or the Speaker or somebody else we may never know and isn't terribly important. They all went along with it.

If I were the President, I would arrange for Bibi the Butcher to be greeted at the airport by INTERPOL agents who would like to talk to him about escapades in Gaza last year. But that's not going to happen.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
15. Agreed
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 07:57 PM
Jan 2015
"If I were the President, I would arrange for Bibi the Butcher to be greeted at the airport by INTERPOL agents who would like to talk to him about escapades in Gaza last year. But that's not going to happen."

If I were President, I would either arrange for Bibi's plane to not receive clearance to land or alternately not be met by anyone.

But, just my opinion.
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