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Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 06:39 PM Jan 2015

Pentagon Calls Bergdahl Reports (by Fox and NBC) 'Patently False', Rear Admiral: "Let me put a fork in it".

Last edited Tue Jan 27, 2015, 09:17 PM - Edit history (2)

Pentagon and Army officials on Tuesday strongly denied claims that the U.S. military has decided to file desertion charges against Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was released by Taliban-aligned militants last year in exchange for five Guantanamo prisoners.

The claim was first made by retired Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer, a former military intelligence officer who now works at the London Center for Policy Research. He told Fox News' "The O'Reilly Factor" Monday night that he's learned of the military's decision from two sources.


"The Army has come to its conclusion, and Bowe Bergdahl ... will be charged with desertion," he said.

But Maj. Gen. Ronald F. Lewis, the Army's chief of public affairs, put out a statement Tuesday afternoon calling the reports, including a similar one by NBC News, "patently false."
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Opinion: Fox manufactured another lie, NBC got fooled into running it, and now they got what they wanted, a response from the Pentagon calling them liars, now they have a news cycle.

It is a media circus going on, the MSM is an unreliable source of actual information.

http://news.yahoo.com/video/bowe-bergdahl-face-desertion-charges-181339838.html

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"Let Me Put A Fork In It", Rear Admiral John Kirby

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/01/27/pentagon-disputes-that-a-decision-has-been-made-in-the-bowe-bergdahl-case/

“Let me just put a fork in this right now, if I can,” Kirby told reporters at the Pentagon on Tuesday. “No decision has been made with respect to the case of Sergeant Bergdahl. None. And General Milley is not being put under any pressure to make a decision, either way.”

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EDIT: This the NBC story, they have kept the headline and just attached a video of the Pentagon calling them out for their sloppy work. No correction....

NBC: "Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was held captive by enemy forces in Afghanistan for five years, will likely be charged with desertion, (a) senior defense officials tell NBC News.

The officials point out that Bergdahl will likely face a lesser charge of desertion described in the Uniform Code of Military Justice as leaving a post to avoid duty or shirk an important assignment, based on his actions when he left a remote outpost in June 2009."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/bowe-bergdahl-likely-be-charged-desertion-officials-say-n294466

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Pentagon Calls Bergdahl Reports (by Fox and NBC) 'Patently False', Rear Admiral: "Let me put a fork in it". (Original Post) Fred Sanders Jan 2015 OP
Sounds like Shaffer made it up, told fox louis-t Jan 2015 #1
Yep. Made the whole shit up and sold it to Billo, Chief Shit Purchaser at Fox. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #3
After Fox's recent apologies, picking up the story from Fox was irresponsible, at best, let merrily Jan 2015 #4
This man was very fragile when we got him back. Unless Shaffer had impeccable info, he's a POS. merrily Jan 2015 #2
One unnamed source. Then changed to "more than one". They ran with it and so did NBC. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #5
Personally, I don't believe he had impeccable info. However, I believe it is merrily Jan 2015 #8
Yes, because a public official lying is a criminal offence and is officially announced not on Fox. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #11
Not sure what you mean? merrily Jan 2015 #15
The kid needs to talk to a good lawyer madokie Jan 2015 #7
"Sorry ass shit" doesn't even begin to cover their quasi-libel and slander of KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #10
I agree with you madokie Jan 2015 #14
Their fucking computer algorithm is simple, hate and lies in, cash and sheeple out. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #16
Exactly. Aerows Jan 2015 #23
Will Fox News news publicly repudiate Shaffer? Somehow I doubt it, b/c they're too busy KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #6
Shaffer a rogue. elias49 Jan 2015 #9
Another hater from Britain, like the no go zone idiot who also pulled shit from his ass and flung it Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #12
It's Fox News of course it is BS. This is typical of our copy cat news bubble. underpants Jan 2015 #13
That Fox has dubious sources isn't a surprise. TwilightGardener Jan 2015 #17
The fake Fox story would have gone nowhere without NBC doing copy without calling the Pentagon. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #18
It was NBC's Chief Pentagon Correspondent who reported the story pinboy3niner Jan 2015 #19
It's disgraceful Aerows Jan 2015 #24
MSNBC reported on this during Alex Wagner's 4pm hour and confirmed this story is false Rhiannon12866 Jan 2015 #20
The story is not just the reporting of the Fox lie, it is the Fox lie reported by Fox. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #21
Breitbart and The Blaze were reporting this as fact, as well... Rhiannon12866 Jan 2015 #22
The only surprise is NBC, it is a big surprise because they did not confirm the sources. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #25
And I first heard this debunked by MSNBC... Rhiannon12866 Jan 2015 #26
Most likely, they will offer him an "out". SoCalDem Jan 2015 #27

merrily

(45,251 posts)
4. After Fox's recent apologies, picking up the story from Fox was irresponsible, at best, let
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 06:45 PM
Jan 2015

alone a story like this.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
8. Personally, I don't believe he had impeccable info. However, I believe it is
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 06:51 PM
Jan 2015

very possible to have impeccable info from one source that you cannot name, depending on who the source is.

For example, if this were a civil case and Eric Holder told me the complaint would be filed first thing tomorrow morning, I'd consider that impeccable info.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
11. Yes, because a public official lying is a criminal offence and is officially announced not on Fox.
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 06:53 PM
Jan 2015

If you do not understand the difference...so be it.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
15. Not sure what you mean?
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 06:56 PM
Jan 2015

A public official lying to me or to a retired general would not be a criminal offense, AFAIK.

I meant only that Holder would know better than anyone if the D of J was going to do something at 9 am tomorrow or not. If he leaked it to me on a no names basis, I'd believe him.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
10. "Sorry ass shit" doesn't even begin to cover their quasi-libel and slander of
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 06:53 PM
Jan 2015

Bergdahl. I'm sure in the back rooms of the Executive Producers, a careful cold-blooded calculus was performed: will running outright libel or slander (or what we should have had good reason to suspect was such) earn us more in increased viewership (and thereby higher ad $$) than the resulting civil verdict against us for libel and slander will cost us in terms of higher liability insurance premiums going forward? They've gambled on the former.I hope a good lawyer secures a jury that puts Fox and NBC out of business or at a minumum secures a verdict that really hurts their shareholders.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
23. Exactly.
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 07:36 PM
Jan 2015

He was held for over a year and a half, and many leaped to make him a political football.

They should be ashamed of themselves. They weren't there, they didn't suffer as the man did, and as such, should at the very least lobby to provide funding for veterans, not be caustic and horrible to people who served when they DID NOT.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
6. Will Fox News news publicly repudiate Shaffer? Somehow I doubt it, b/c they're too busy
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 06:47 PM
Jan 2015

promulgating the latest version of the stab-in-the-back myth, i.e., we could have won in Afghanistan were it not for the pesky liberals and the liberal media. And here George H.W. Bush boasted that he'd finally kicked the 'Vietnam Syndrome.'

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
9. Shaffer a rogue.
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 06:52 PM
Jan 2015

Wrote a book called "Operation Dark Heart" which should have put him in jail. Gave up lots of classified info, later redacted by the NSA and the DIA. Also 'reported' that the President watched the attacks in Benghazi from some secure location.
What's really up with this guy?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
12. Another hater from Britain, like the no go zone idiot who also pulled shit from his ass and flung it
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 06:55 PM
Jan 2015

across the Pond towards Fox America for professional B.S. processing and mass consumption.

Anyone apologizing in this thread for saying Fox is not dangerous has not read the thread.

(Not you)

underpants

(182,877 posts)
13. It's Fox News of course it is BS. This is typical of our copy cat news bubble.
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 06:55 PM
Jan 2015

Fox News is #1 and the rest of the media follows any BS they come up with.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
17. That Fox has dubious sources isn't a surprise.
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 07:00 PM
Jan 2015

I mean, do you really expect Bill O'Reilly to scoop serious journalism on a big story? NBC is the real disappointment here. But they say "senior defense officials" confirmed the story--would be interesting to know who that was.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
18. The fake Fox story would have gone nowhere without NBC doing copy without calling the Pentagon.
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 07:03 PM
Jan 2015

How does that happen?

Ex-Fox news producer from Fox 7 Austin, the late young man Phillip Perea, killed himself yesterday with a shot to the chest in front of Fox News HQ in Manhattan to try to explain how that could happen and does happen in American media every day.

He can tell it better than me.

Rhiannon12866

(205,991 posts)
20. MSNBC reported on this during Alex Wagner's 4pm hour and confirmed this story is false
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 07:14 PM
Jan 2015

And that no decision has yet been made. They got this from The Pentagon...

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
25. The only surprise is NBC, it is a big surprise because they did not confirm the sources.
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 07:39 PM
Jan 2015

Running a story on a sensitive matter without solid confirmation is media civil negligence for NBC, SOP for Fox.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
27. Most likely, they will offer him an "out".
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 07:46 PM
Jan 2015

He will take the general discharge, and that will be the end of it. He does not seem like a very talkative fellow, and will probably melt back into obscurity.

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