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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 02:08 PM Jan 2015

Texas Cities Face Fiscal Squeeze on Prolonged Oil Rout, S&P Says

By Darrell Preston Jan 22, 2015 2:26 PM ET

The credit ratings of Texas municipalities could suffer if tumbling oil prices slow the economy of the second-most-populous U.S. state, Standard & Poor’s said.

Oil has fallen from more than $100 a barrel in June to about $46. That may cost jobs and tax revenue in regions of Texas where the energy industry dominates the economy, the New York-based credit-rating company said in a report Thursday.

“Oil price declines will temper the state’s growth prospects in 2015,” Oscar Padilla, an analyst with Standard & Poor’s, said in the report, which assumes oil prices of $50 this year. “The dampening effect that low oil prices will have on Texas’ growth could be magnified if oil prices decline significantly below our current assumptions and if those low levels persist well into 2015.”

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2015-01-22/texas-cities-face-fiscal-squeeze-on-prolonged-oil-rout-s-p-says.html

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Texas Cities Face Fiscal Squeeze on Prolonged Oil Rout, S&P Says (Original Post) Purveyor Jan 2015 OP
guess they'll find out it wasn't the magic of repuke politics keeping them up Skittles Jan 2015 #1
Apparently the oil industry is cyclical and cynical. Who knew? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #2
I think most Texans knew dumbcat Jan 2015 #4
Most Texans certainly don't *vote* like they know... villager Jan 2015 #5
Good thing the GOP dominated government planned for this cycle turn then and saved up some money from tax Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #6
It is a good thing dumbcat Jan 2015 #11
GOP Texas about 1/12 as smart as Albertans, Texas has six times the population and half the money. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #12
We were discussing Alberta? dumbcat Jan 2015 #16
Done the math yet? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #18
Why? dumbcat Jan 2015 #21
What is the calculation, now that it is all going south? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #15
You tell me dumbcat Jan 2015 #17
I need to consult with my dumb cat, get back to you. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #19
When you are out of arguments dumbcat Jan 2015 #20
Same with our auto industry. Everyone around Michigan knows the day will Purveyor Jan 2015 #7
Alberta, Canada has tens of billions of dollars in a Rainy Day Fund for just this kind of down turn, Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #9
"Without doing any research I think I know the answer." dumbcat Jan 2015 #13
See math. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #14
Time to stop being a one-industry state... Aristus Jan 2015 #3
It did ... dumbcat Jan 2015 #8
That industry is political corruption, energy production is about 17% of GDP. That is a lot but it is 100 % of politics. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #10
If you're going to bash Texas at least get your facts straight tammywammy Jan 2015 #23
Currently indicted ex-Governor "Rainman" Perry, I stand corrected. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #24
I guess their low-wage, job-poaching "business friendly" model aint all that then Populist_Prole Jan 2015 #22
and we should care why? ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #25

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
6. Good thing the GOP dominated government planned for this cycle turn then and saved up some money from tax
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 02:15 PM
Jan 2015

revenue on the Oil that belongs to all it's citizens equally.

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
11. It is a good thing
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 02:29 PM
Jan 2015
http://www.texastribune.org/2014/12/11/lawmakers-set-7-billion-floor-state-piggy-bank/

The state’s savings account should hold at least $7 billion for the next three years to maintain the state’s high credit ratings and ensure the state is ready for an unforeseen emergency, a group of lawmakers decided Thursday morning.

The Joint Select Committee to Study the Balance of the Economic Stabilization Fund made the 6-0 decision in a six-minute meeting with no debate and little discussion. But the decision will have far-reaching consequences, paving the way for the start of an extra $1.7 billion in roadwork around the state while also potentially impacting how much lawmakers choose to spend during next year’s legislative session.

Normally, most of the state’s oil and gas production taxes go to the Rainy Day Fund. Before 2007, the fund’s balance had never topped $1 billion. Because of a recent surge in drilling activity in South and West Texas, the fund’s balance has quickly taken in billions of dollars. The comptroller’s office has projected the fund’s balance will be $8 billion in 2015.

During a special session in 2013, lawmakers passed a measure asking voters to approve sending half of the oil and gas production taxes that would normally go to the Rainy Day Fund to the State Highway Fund instead. The Texas Department of Transportation has said it has a $5 billion annual budget shortfall. Last month, 80 percent of Texas voters approved the measure, called Proposition 1.


Smart folks, those Texans.

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
20. When you are out of arguments
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 02:40 PM
Jan 2015

resort to personal insults and taunts.

I chose my screen name for a reason. And you just validated it again. Thank you, and goodbye.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
7. Same with our auto industry. Everyone around Michigan knows the day will
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 02:18 PM
Jan 2015

come when auto sales plunge and layoffs begin. Just a matter of time but I think we are good for at least a couple more years barring some unforeseen event.

No one, absolutely no one, predicted this oil price collapse so one can never tell when the next shoe will drop.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. Alberta, Canada has tens of billions of dollars in a Rainy Day Fund for just this kind of down turn,
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 02:24 PM
Jan 2015

created by a royalty on every barell of oil extracted.

Did Texas have similar long range planning?

Without doing any research I think I know the answer.

http://www.finance.alberta.ca/business/ahstf/

Improving Albertans' Quality of Life
Another positive quarter for the Heritage Fund
November 26, 2014

Over the first six months of the 2014-15 fiscal year, the Heritage Fund earned $1 billion in gross income and posted a 4.7 per cent rate of return. The Fund’s value at September 30, 2014 was $17.4 billion on a fair value basis. Read the Alberta Heritage Savings Trust Fund 2014-15 Second Quarter Update.

See the left-side menu above for more information about the Heritage Fund, or use the quick links below to access highlighted topics.

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That would be the equivalent on a per capita basis of almost $ 90 billion for Texas....

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
8. It did ...
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 02:22 PM
Jan 2015
The Texas economy today relies largely on information technology, oil and natural gas, aerospace, defense, biomedical research, fuel processing, electric power, agriculture, and manufacturing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Texas

Of the eleven major industries1 of the Texas economy, all except Information and Government experienced net job growth during fiscal 2011. Gaining industries included Mining and Logging, Construction, Manufacturing, Trade/Transportation/Utilities, Financial Activities, Professional and Business Services, Education and Health Services, Leisure and Hospitality, and Other Services.

http://thetexaseconomy.org/business-industry/industries/

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
10. That industry is political corruption, energy production is about 17% of GDP. That is a lot but it is 100 % of politics.
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 02:28 PM
Jan 2015

The Texas Governor is under criminal indictment!

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
23. If you're going to bash Texas at least get your facts straight
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 04:06 PM
Jan 2015

Rick Perry is no longer governor; Greg Abbott was sworn in Tuesday.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
24. Currently indicted ex-Governor "Rainman" Perry, I stand corrected.
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 04:08 PM
Jan 2015

I insult corruption in Texas, who would have a problem with the good folks of Texas, who are the victims of the rampage of corruption?

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