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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsZimmerman's gateway "drug" was a pitbull and bad cop advice.
George Zimmerman: Interviews, documents shed new light on Sanford shooter
SANFORD A pit bull named Big Boi began menacing George and Shellie Zimmerman in the fall of 2009.
The first time the dog ran free and cornered Shellie in their gated community in Sanford, George called the owner to complain. The second time, Big Boi frightened his mother-in-law's dog. Zimmerman called Seminole County Animal Services and bought pepper spray. The third time he saw the dog on the loose, he called again. An officer came to the house, county records show.
"Don't use pepper spray," he told the Zimmermans, according to a friend. "It'll take two or three seconds to take effect but a quarter-second for the dog to jump you," he said.
"Get a gun."
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-25/news/os-george-zimmerman-profile-trayvon-martin--20120425_1_pit-bull-pepper-spray-big-boi
The correct answer is, that the social services sucked if they couldn't properly regulate a dog owner who allowed a pitbull to be loose that many times.
ON EDIT: Read the Reader's Forum so you can see how the Zimmerman apologists are using this as an excuse to chase down Trayvon.
hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)And, yes, perhaps, but I'd surely love to see the reports on this. I remain skeptical re: all this manipulative "backstory" being put out there. I give Zimmerman credit for finally having engaged an intelligent lawyer, but that is why folks ought to be asking more questions, not less.
Baitball Blogger
(46,736 posts)Anything that requires public money is a social service.
hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)The officers (though granted include many who are cop-wannabes) are still given authority as an adjunct to law enforcement.
Funny that it is you who brought up being influenced by right-wing propaganda, since your social services comment would be one that I'd expect to hear from the right. But, I did not make that accusation. You did.
Baitball Blogger
(46,736 posts)Can't live here these many years without being affected by some of the insanity.
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)I don't believe he was told that. I believe he was told he was legally allowed to defend himself from an attacking dog.
Baitball Blogger
(46,736 posts)Along with the idea that black men in hoodies were up to no good.
On Edit: Separate conversations, of course.
kctim
(3,575 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,736 posts)of the building department.
We do have animal services, but the number isn't as easy to remember as 911.
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,736 posts)with a squirrel that got caught in a squirrel proof bird feeder, and another time to pick up a coral snake that was still very much alive and hiding in a water sprinkler hole.
Very competent both times.
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)I've seen both where I live, but the person in charge of Animal Control is a uniformed officer with the rank of Sergeant (I just double checked online!).
kctim
(3,575 posts)I have seen cops sometimes help, but had no idea there was a special department of cops who only did animal control in some places.
You don't have to be a cop in order to be an animal control officer around here.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)I think the headline is a bit misleading. Neither the dog nor the animal control officer suggesting that Zimmerman acquire a firearm are the issue.
Baitball Blogger
(46,736 posts)Anyone who makes it to the reader forum will figure out where this article is leading.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)...actions in a context that make more sense to me than the facile "he's just a racist predator" theme.
I maintain that what Zimmerman did was wrong.
Baitball Blogger
(46,736 posts)The danger here is that there are forces that are itching, just itching, to claim that black kids deserve heighten scrutiny because most of the previous burglars are suspected of being black. If you go down that road, then Zimmerman suddenly has a right to stalk and confront Martin.
That can't be an acceptable conclusion because it opens the door to similar situations like this one.
uncle ray
(3,156 posts)"Big Boi" is the name of a Rapper.
just more evidence he has a problem with black people in his community.
rustydog
(9,186 posts)but he had the balls to murder an unarmed teenager walking in "his" (Zimmienuts) neighborhood with Tea and Skittles????