Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 01:42 PM Jan 2015

"Foxcatcher"--a devastatingly sinister portrayal of the 1%...

Steve Carell gives the performance of his career as "John E. DUPONT", twisted scion of the quintessential 1% dynasty.

In the most subtle of roles, he becomes the incarnation of everything that's evil about obscene, inherited wealth.





Mark Ruffalo and Channing Tatum as Dupont's hapless victims are a treat to watch, as well.

ETA: If your entertainment budget is tight, forget "American Sniper" (that 'saccharine, almost PG-rated two-hour cinematic diversion about a killing machine with a heart of gold'--credit to Matt Taibbi) and opt for FOXCATCHER.

See this film and recommend it...

19 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
"Foxcatcher"--a devastatingly sinister portrayal of the 1%... (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 OP
Big fan of Carell azmom Jan 2015 #1
I was blown away by his performance--and I'm no push over! LOL! Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #3
It's certainly a departure azmom Jan 2015 #5
I read he had one of the biggest fake noses in the history Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #6
I went in knowing absolutely nothing about this story. Baitball Blogger Jan 2015 #2
Same here--stunned and mesmerized by the understated, Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #4
Dupont was not evil. mysuzuki2 Jan 2015 #7
His milieu and money made him into a manipulative monster... Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #8
Two different issues YarnAddict Jan 2015 #9
I disagree with ... Whiskeytide Jan 2015 #11
Tell that to the daughter of Robert Richards IV. Rex Jan 2015 #12
I was speaking specifically to the issue YarnAddict Jan 2015 #13
I believe the military sold him a machine gun. Baitball Blogger Jan 2015 #15
Ditto to this... Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #17
Then to you I recommend 'Grand Budapest Hotel' which is pleasant company and my favorite of the Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #10
have you seen American Sniper? lame54 Jan 2015 #14
How's that for a coincidence--just watched it a couple of hours ago... Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #16
Foxcatcher was fantastic! bigwillq Jan 2015 #18
Skin-crawlingly good! Agree--should have been up for Best Pic... Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #19
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
6. I read he had one of the biggest fake noses in the history
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 01:57 PM
Jan 2015

of cinema (besides Cyrano de Bergerac, LOL!)

Baitball Blogger

(46,756 posts)
2. I went in knowing absolutely nothing about this story.
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 01:49 PM
Jan 2015

I thought it was a Rocky movie. I wouldn't have selected it to see it on Christmas day, but I wasn't the one to make the selection. I will say that the movie may have made it too subtle what DuPont had done to the younger brother. I had to clarify that scene to the others after the movie, and then it all fell in place for them.

We were all stunned. Amazing portrayal of the destructive power that inherited money has in this country, when it is given to people who have no connection to the real suffering that people are going through in normal life.

mysuzuki2

(3,521 posts)
7. Dupont was not evil.
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 02:00 PM
Jan 2015

He was seriously mentally ill. Unfortunately, because of his wealth and position there was no one to insist that he get treatment. I agree that Foxcatcher is an extremely well-acted, written and directed film. However, I found it to be unpleasant to watch. I was glad when it ended.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
8. His milieu and money made him into a manipulative monster...
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 02:03 PM
Jan 2015

Mad or not, he was able to do so much evil because he had so much money.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
9. Two different issues
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 04:49 PM
Jan 2015

This country does not provide adequate treatment for the mentally ill of any socioeconomic class. The $$$ didn't make him more mentally ill than a similarly-predisposed poor person, and it didn't mean he got away with things that a poor person wouldn't have.

Look at cases like Jared Laughner. He was clearly mentally ill, scared fellow students and teachers in his community college classes, but nothing could be done UNTIL he committed a crime. Same with Adam Lanza.

Whiskeytide

(4,462 posts)
11. I disagree with ...
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 05:01 PM
Jan 2015

... what you said here...

"The $$$ ... didn't mean he got away with things that a poor person wouldn't have."


I agree one may have had nothing to do with the other from a causative standpoint, but certainly he was cut more slack by the system because of his financial means, political influence, a battery of lawyers/handlers/cleaners, etc.....

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
12. Tell that to the daughter of Robert Richards IV.
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 05:07 PM
Jan 2015

You are completely wrong in that rich people don't get away with crimes that poor people would get away with too. I can't even believe you typed that.


"Though Robert H. Richards IV was convicted of rape, the wealthy heir to the du Pont family fortune was spared prison by a Delaware court in 2009 because he would "not fare well" behind bars, according to court documents CNN obtained Tuesday.

Richards is a great-grandson of the chemical magnate Irenee du Pont.

He received an eight-year prison sentence in 2009 for raping his toddler daughter, but the sentencing order signed by a Delaware judge said "defendant will not fare well" in prison and the eight years were suspended."

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/02/justice/delaware-du-pont-rape-case/



NO poor person would have been spared prison and you KNOW this.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
13. I was speaking specifically to the issue
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 05:19 PM
Jan 2015

of the mentally ill, none of whom get adequate treatment in this country.

Baitball Blogger

(46,756 posts)
15. I believe the military sold him a machine gun.
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 05:34 PM
Jan 2015

So, I don't think anyone knew, that should have known, that he was clearly mentally ill. Or perhaps, no one, back then, were willing to question big money?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
10. Then to you I recommend 'Grand Budapest Hotel' which is pleasant company and my favorite of the
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 05:00 PM
Jan 2015

year. A sweet little gem of a film.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
16. How's that for a coincidence--just watched it a couple of hours ago...
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 06:41 PM
Jan 2015

having purposely avoided it for a week or two.

I might not go as far as Taibbi in my critique, but I cannot abide the glorification of "tough guy warriors", however nuanced their justification for killing.

That being said, Bradley Cooper's Oscar nomination is more than deserved.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
18. Foxcatcher was fantastic!
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 07:14 PM
Jan 2015

Carell was creepy good, Ruffalo was outstanding and Tatum turned in a tremendous performance.

Snubbed for Best Picture.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»"Foxcatcher"--a...