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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThere was just a coup in Yemen
while we were debating the worthiness of a Clint Eastwood movie, Militants just took over an Arab country.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/20/yemen-houthis_n_6507070.html
Some serious shit happening there.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)U.S. policy has contributed to the endless chaos in the Middle East.
Hollywood propaganda provides the excuses. Even when it's ostensibly critical, our leaders were only ever misguided.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)AQAP was a coalition of tribal warlords, and wasn't looking to pick a fight with America. They just wanted regime change. According to journalist Jeremy Scahill, who has spent an enormous amount of time among the tribesmen of Yemen, most Yemenis had a positive view of America.
That all changed when the U.S. military stepped in to defend Saleh and started bombing tribal villages. One attack in particular, the 2009 cluster bomb attack that killed 21 children (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/cable-reveals-airstrike-killed-21-children-yemen/), resulted in the imprisonment by Yemeni authorities of a journalist named Abdulelah Shaye. Shaye was guilty only of the crime of reporting what happened.
True to form, Obama in 2011, when he learned that Shaye was due to be released by the Yemeni government, contacted Saleh and pressured him to keep Shaye imprisoned:
http://www.thenation.com/article/166757/why-president-obama-keeping-journalist-prison-yemen#
Unlike most journalists covering Al Qaeda, Shaye risked his life to travel to areas controlled by Al Qaeda and to interview its leaders. He also conducted several interviews with the radical cleric Anwar al Awlaki. Shaye did the last known interview with Awlaki just before it was revealed that Awlaki, a US citizen, was on a CIA/JSOC hit list. We were only exposed to Western media and Arab media funded by the West, which depicts only one image of Al Qaeda, recalls his best friend Kamal Sharaf, a well-known dissident Yemeni political cartoonist. But Abdulelah brought a different viewpoint.
Shaye had no reverence for Al Qaeda, but viewed the group as an important story, according to Sharaf. Shaye was able to get access to Al Qaeda figures in part due to his relationship, through marriage, to the radical Islamic cleric Abdul Majid al Zindani, the founder of Iman University and a US Treasury Departmentdesignated terrorist. While Sharaf acknowledged that Shaye used his connections to gain access to Al Qaeda, he adds that Shaye also boldly criticized Zindani and his supporters: He said the truth with no fear.
Meanwhile we had replaced cluster bombs with drone strikes, with ever-increasing frequency. Saleh was deposed in 2012, but thanks to our murderous drone campaign the Yemeni tribesmen - once relatively favorably disposed to us - now hate us. The focus of AQAP has changed, from the ouster of the Yemeni dictator to attacking targets in the West.
In this case our belligerent policy has contributed to the deaths of 11 French citizens.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)The US may actually prefer the Shi'ite militias who just chased out the Saudi/GCC installed "President" (who also came to power in a coup in 2012).
Yemen is KSA's backyard, and this just shows how chaotic, overextended and altogether fucked up the Oil Kingdom is right now.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Erose999
(5,624 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)moondust
(19,993 posts)on CNNi last night, the Houthis *may be* better than the current weak regime. This seemingly knowledgeable source said the Houthis are not affiliated with Shia in Iran or Lebanon and have in fact been fighting AQAP.
Ykcutnek
(1,305 posts)The Middle East is a perpetual game of King of the Shitpile.
SidDithers
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freshwest
(53,661 posts)SOTU was excellent, snarksX3 within minutes, then they tripled.
The Kenyan muslin socialist war mongering baby's candy stealing corporatist... Meh...
Beltway is spinning and the sheeple are repeating. Even some compliments for the GOP.
Isn't as wild as the last SOTU, though, and that's a relief.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)train and arm in Syria. It's not our job to meddle all over the world.
Protecting the Saudi southern front isn't my priority. As much as we know about them, perhaps even they are our real enemy.
Release the 28 pages and we'll find out.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)If we leave them alone, the Houthis will take down AQAP for us.
edhopper
(33,587 posts)But I am saying, considering Yemen is a training ground for terrorist, this is important, yet largely ignored here.
While a movie has generated over a dozen threads.
It's just an observation.