There's no point in watching the SOTU tonight.

[TheCowsCameHome]

All I've heard all morning are conservative responses and their analysis of an address that hasn't even been delivered yet.

Even that eternal d-bag Grover Norquist came out of his septic tank long enough to pop off about how wrong the President is.

[2naSalit]

1. Yikes

Grover... he's like Beetlejuice (character in the movie)... say "tax increase" three times and he slithers out of his cesspool. And they always forget to send him back!

[joshcryer]

2. You will see the same crap here from the "left."

Might as well just watch and enjoy and make up your own mind. The president won't get credit for shit.

[LawDeeDah]

5. Yep. The preemptive grease of rage is now being applied.

I can easily start 19 threads now knowing what the same abusive and hammerdumb headlines we will see this evening from the regulars.

[joshcryer]

7. Thinking about a "things people say" thread.

But I think I am going to stay away. When Obama acted on Cuba the hate mongers here were too much.

Obama's speech tonight should be laying the groundwork for the future of the democratic party. One year the republicans will obstruct what he says tonight. When the primaries happen the difference between the parties will be absolute and clear.

[Ykcutnek]

15. Yep. "HE'S SAYING WHAT I'VE ALWAYS WANTED HIM TO SAY --- BUT

HE SHOULD HAVE SAID IT ON |INSERT ARBITRARY DATE HERE|"

Politics is their outlet to be perpetually bitter. Nothing more, nothing less.

[joshcryer]

19. Yup, "that's candidate Obama!"

Nevermind nothing whatsoever he says tonight will be new.

The pathetic part is when you say that he's been saying the same stuff, they just twist it and ask why it wasn't more visible, etc.

The word for tonight is "Kabuki theater." It will be everywhere.

The only thing that could change the tone is if the republicans act nasty, refuse to clap at basic progress, turn their backs, basically blow it, otherwise the continuously bitter will shit on the president.

[bigwillq]

3. I won't be watching the political theater tonight.

It's the same BS year after year, president after president.

[LawDeeDah]

33. ....

heh heh tee hee. Pre gaming?

[bigwillq]

34. No.

I am at work.

[Boomerproud]

35. "Political Theater"-you took the words right out of my mouth.

1-Who will be the "Special Guest" sitting next to the FLOTUS?


2-How many standing ovations will there be?


3- What little buttons will the opposition party be wearing tonite?


It's all acting, and terrible acting at that, whomever the president happens to be.

[Avalux]

4. Thanks but I'm not taking your word for it, or the words of conservative idiots.

I can't wait to see Jodi Ernst fall on her repugnant face. I remember when Bobby Jindal had the opportunity a few years ago and it sunk him.

[MrMickeysMom]

6. Well… you could always turn the sound off and listen to Mike Malloy's show on the internets...

I won't advocate drinking games, but those who might want to do that have a FINE opportunity. I do much better with Malloy. Some here think he's too "left" WHATEVERTHEFUCKTHATMEANS.

Just in case - http://www.mikemalloy.com

[lame54]

8. Kinda like American Sniper

[kentuck]

9. Yeah. Define it before it is even given.

Repubs are good at using the lamestream media...

[spanone]

36. and the media gladly accommodates them

[Rex]

10. You'll see the same crap from centrists, they will claim the left

is going to cry about it all day on DU...when if you look it is them that cry all day long on DU.

[Autumn]

13. They are already doing it.

That's how they roll.

[Rex]

25. I'm going to point out every time a centrist plays the 'left is evil' card

by pointing THEM out. Bout time to show the trash for what it is.

[joshcryer]

20. I'm logging off like I did when Obama opened up to Cuba.

I'm not going to let the a-political faux activist left shit on me tonight.

[Rex]

24. I just ignored them and celebrated like most people on here.

That move was awesome I enjoyed talking to DUers about it all day long. True there were some Third Way crybabies that huffed and puffed, but I'm not one to run from fake progressives. I'd rather stay here and enjoy myself while watching them flee like cowards over normalizing trade with Cuba.

[joshcryer]

27. Do you think it will be the Third Way shitting on Obama tonight?

Interesting that you believe it was the Third Way with regards to Cuba, actually. Didn't consider that angle. Shit on Obama for every good thing so people embrace the Third Way?

[Rex]

28. I hear you saying 'shitting on Obama' but I don't see anyone doing it.

Interesting that is all you can talk about. But it's not like you are stirring up the shit - no sir.

Obama is not Third Way, it is a think tank of neoliberal bankers. Nice try.

[joshcryer]

29. The TPP fast track thread is a start.

Give it time. There will be post after post of distortion and distraction.

You are the one who claimed that the bashers of Obama's Cuba policy were Third Way people you ignored. That was not what I saw.

[Rex]

30. Well you probably saw what you wanted to see.

Sorry, but I am not responsible for other people. Money grubbing libertarians hate this POTUS as much as their neocon brethren. Hence, Third Way...and if you do not know what I am talking about you can just ask.

[joshcryer]

31. "Nothing to see here, move along."

It's just a coincidence the most bashing threads happen to come out whenever Obama does something good.

Fortunately the "piece of shit used car salesman," an enduring term coined by a DUer will set the foundation for democrats holding power for the next 24 years tonight, and "desperately disillusioned Obama supporters" will be shown correct.

Because we actually get out there and get the job done. And that's why I'm done with DU for the bought.

[Rex]

32. Again, why bring up the negative shit people say here? Do you feed off of it.

Seriously, I don't give that shit the time of day. And don't get all self-righteous with me about doing your part for the party - so do I every election cycle.

Go ahead and feed on that garbage, from your signature it would seem we are both on the same side and want a well regulated market. Fair trade, not free trade. The difference is I don't let the haters get to me.

Haters gonna hate, no need to stir up shit with people that vote 90% of the time for the candidate. Take up issue with people that put money over party and principle, if that is what it seems you are saying.

Obama is not a POS used car salesman, he is the best POTUS in my lifetime! Have a great evening, this place gets you too charged up.

[StopTheTPP]

11. The point now is to call your senators and reps

And tell them no on fast track for the TPP.

[Ykcutnek]

12. The extremists on both loony ends of the spectrum are already analyzing the speech.

One side is saying he's going too far and they're pissed off more than they've ever been pissed.

One side is saying it's what they want to hear, but for whatever reason they're still pissed.

And sane, average everyday Americans are finally waking up and seeing how much this President has done for them. The economy is getting better and his approval rating is soaring. It will be in the high 50s before he leaves office. But the bitter few will keep singing their same, trite tunes while the rest of us enjoy the fruits of this presidency.

[joshcryer]

21. Tonight is going to be pivotal.

You might be interested in seeing "The American Experience: Clinton"

It chronicles the BS democrats had to deal with and I think Obama had much greater hurdles. In the end I see tonight as a foundation.

[HughBeaumont]

14. I'm actually enthused about watching Joni Ernst.

1. For Comedic Value.
2. To see how long I can last with my IQ points still intact.

This promises to be more WTF than Jindal or Bachmann.

[TheCowsCameHome]

17. About what time will she be on?

Downton Abbey is repeating tonight, but Ernst might be worth a brief look.

[HughBeaumont]

22. Not sure what time, guessing directly after President Obama is done.

Either way, this trainwreck promises to illicit madcap laughs, cringes, shaken heads, facepalms and thousand-yard stares.

She's guaranteed to say something so stupid that time stops. A few times.

[dissentient]

16. Gasp! Anyone who doesn't watch the president's speech is being a bad Democrat and betraying our

president! You better be watching his every word with admiration and awe!

[randome]

18. There's never a reason to watch it. Just read about it the next morning.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

[Iggo]

23. ^^^ This.

[Rex]

26. Who gives a fuck about repukes and their idiotic ideas?

Fuck them.