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Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 12:32 PM Jan 2015

US Giving Up on Overthrowing Assad?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/20/world/middleeast/us-support-for-syria-peace-plans-demonstrates-shift-in-priorities.html

BEIRUT, Lebanon — American support for a pair of diplomatic initiatives in Syria underscores the shifting views of how to end the civil war there and the West’s quiet retreat from its demand that the country’s president, Bashar al-Assad, step down immediately.

The Obama administration maintains that a lasting political solution requires Mr. Assad’s exit. But facing military stalemate, well-armed jihadists and the world’s worst humanitarian crisis, the United States is going along with international diplomatic efforts that could lead to more gradual change in Syria.

That shift comes along with other American actions that Mr. Assad’s supporters and opponents take as proof Washington now believes that if Mr. Assad is ousted, there will be nothing to check the spreading chaos and extremism. American planes now bomb the Islamic State group’s militants in Syria, sharing skies with Syrian jets. American officials assure Mr. Assad, through Iraqi intermediaries, that Syria’s military is not their target. The United States still trains and equips Syrian insurgents, but now mainly to fight the Islamic State, not the government.

Now, the United States and other Western countries have publicly welcomed initiatives — one from the United Nations and one from Russia — that postpone any revival of the United States-backed Geneva framework, which called for a wholesale transfer of power to a “transitional governing body.” The last Geneva talks failed a year ago amid vehement disagreement over whether that body could include Mr. Assad.

One of the new concepts is a United Nations proposal to “freeze” the fighting on the ground, first in the strategic crossroads city of Aleppo. The other is an initiative from Russia, Mr. Assad’s most powerful supporter, to try to spur talks between the warring sides in Moscow in late January. Diplomats and others briefed on the plans say one Russian vision is of power-sharing between Mr. Assad’s government and some opposition figures, and perhaps parliamentary elections that would precede any change in the presidency.

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This seems like a smarter approach than inflaming the civil war.
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US Giving Up on Overthrowing Assad? (Original Post) Comrade Grumpy Jan 2015 OP
Probably a good idea TexasProgresive Jan 2015 #1
"...the West must adapt to the reality that Syrian insurgents have failed to defeat Mr. Assad." Comrade Grumpy Jan 2015 #2

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
1. Probably a good idea
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 12:47 PM
Jan 2015

If Assad is ousted, evil as he is, what will fill the vacuum? This is the problem with revolutions, one never knows the outcome.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
2. "...the West must adapt to the reality that Syrian insurgents have failed to defeat Mr. Assad."
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 12:51 PM
Jan 2015

"The shifts reflect a longstanding view among United Nations officials in Syria that the West must adapt to the reality that Syrian insurgents have failed to defeat Mr. Assad. Syrians on both sides have said frequently in interviews that they fear the growing influence of foreign militants, and while they mistrust all international players that have financed warring parties, they are willing to explore compromise with other Syrians."

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This is much smarter than that half-assed "let's train and equip a few thousand rebels over the next couple of years" in the middle of a civil war with several hundred thousand combatants.

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