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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHillary Clinton is the only potential candidate that both their party and Independents want to run
http://www.scribd.com/doc/252989106/CBS-News-Poll-Campaign-2016-1-18-15The CBS poll is very interesting. It sorts the results by party. And from that you can see how much voters of each party want each candidate to run. The not so shocking result is everyone hates Palin:
"Im going to read you a list of names. For each please tell me if you would like to see them run for president of the United States in 2016 or not or whether you dont know enough about that person to say:"
Palin
Republicans
Yes 30 - No 59
Independents
Yes 15 - No 69
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Here are the candidates that a plurality wants to see run:
Biden
Democrats
Yes 40 - No 38
Indies
Yes 27 - No 49
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Hillary
Democrats
Yes 85 - No 11
Indies
Yes 51 - No 37
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Jeb
Republicans
Yes 50 - No 27
Indies
Yes 30 - No 42
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Ben Carson (what a joke)
Republicans
Yes 21 - No 17
Indies
Yes 12 - No 15
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Huckabee
Republicans
Yes 40 - No 29
Indies
Yes 20 - No 40
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Romney
Republicans
Yes 59 - No 26
Indies
Yes 33 - No 49
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Rubio
Republicans
Yes 26 - No 19
Indies
Yes 19 - No 30
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Scott Walker
Republicans
Yes 22 - No 12
Indies
Yes 13 - No 19
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But from all of these candidates of both parties, the only candidate encouraged to run by both Dems and Independents is Hillary.
Hillary
Democrats
Yes 85 - No 11
Indies
Yes 51 - No 37
Hillary is also the only candidate that Independents want to see run.
For republicans, I love the fact that not even republicans want Cruz, Christie, Palin, Rand Paul, Perry, and Santorum to run.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/252989106/CBS-News-Poll-Campaign-2016-1-18-15
brooklynite
(94,792 posts)The election of President Romney taught us that...
leveymg
(36,418 posts)against herself.
The strength of a candidates dislikes can be the deciding factor in elections, which are often won or lost by only a few percentage points. That's why Democrats need to take a close look at the fact that as many people seem to now dislike her as would support her.
Here's the latest poll figures that show that Hillary's Q-factor unfavorables are at an all-time high, while her support has steadily eroded.
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating
She isn't inevitable.
LawDeeDah
(1,596 posts)the book was boring and didn't sell well and her promo tv and interview tour was a disastrous kaboom, re: dead broke and all that incredible stupidity. she wasn't all that great with words before, or ever, but that book tour and fallout hurt her really bad in the 'can this person really be a good president for the 99%?' the answer is a clear NO, if she is so out of touch she has no idea what the heck Dead Broke means to these 99%. Incredible denseness with a healthy smattering of stunned.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,245 posts)Poor Bobby Jindal, can't get no love at all!
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)I would bet if republicans were polled Hillary would sink very low, she is a huge threat to the GOP winning in 2016.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)IS surprising...considering that this is a Democratic Party supporting community. Well, it's supposed to be.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)by your feigned surprise at the lack of rec's/posts on a pro-Hillary post.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)This OP is sinking too fast. Come on, DUers! Since when are we afraid of the truth??
vi5
(13,305 posts)It seems like she will do just fine without my help, my money, or my vote.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)she can actually, well support us.
reddread
(6,896 posts)Renew Deal
(81,883 posts)There is a surprising amount of support for Romney
reddread
(6,896 posts)Renew Deal
(81,883 posts)Especially in comparison to the Cruz's, Santorum's and Perry's of the world.
reddread
(6,896 posts)while the Democrats circling Hillary's wagon do not want another name out there.
One party WILL steal the election at the end, while the other WANTS
to steal it in the beginning.
fuck both of them.
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)you have so much disappointment ahead, Im gonna start feeling sorry for you right now.
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)Response to wyldwolf (Reply #34)
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wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)You're denying reality while propping up Jeb. Cheerleader.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)That was a clear misrepresentation of what reddread said.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)now which camp would frighten you more if you were in their crosshairs?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)They have demonstrated they can play hardball as well as anybody else.
Why are you convinced Jeb Bush can even get out of the Republican primaries?
reddread
(6,896 posts)what does voting have to do with it?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Or by a coup?
mmonk
(52,589 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)We have to work hard for our candidates.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)Martin Eden
(12,880 posts)Settling on a nominee nearly 2 years before the election -- with electability based on early poll results as the primary (perhaps only) criteria -- is absolutely the wrong approach to take, IMO.
The assumption that no other (read: better) Dem can possibly win the general election is a mistake, and potentially a self-fullfilling prophecy.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Martin Eden
(12,880 posts)... between a poll nearly 2 years before the election asking people who they want to run
... and who would actually do a better job as president serving the interests of the American people.
I fully understand that getting elected is the first prerequisite.
And I hope we all understand that if we don't focus first and foremost on the best interests of the American people, desperately needed change will never happen.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Our democracy is highly dysfunctional, focusing on personalities and the horse race instead of policy and qualifications.
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)Dawgs
(14,755 posts)wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)Dawgs
(14,755 posts)And, why are you getting so angry? It's okay that Hillary is getting a bump from name recognition. Doesn't mean she won't win.
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)Angry? Far from it.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Hillary is well known. Jeb is not. Last name has nothing to do with it.
Don't know why that's so hard to understand.
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)ok, got it.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Only 10% say "don't know enough to say" when it comes to Hillary Clinton, the numbers are much higher when it comes to candidates other than Clinton or Biden who most of America easily knows who they are.
joshcryer
(62,277 posts)brooklynite
(94,792 posts)joshcryer
(62,277 posts)DonViejo
(60,536 posts)A new Economist/YouGov poll shows Mitt Romney leading the GOP pack of presidential hopefuls with 28%, followed by Jeb Bush at 12%, Ben Carson at 10%, Ted Cruz at 9%, Mike Huckabee at 8%, Rand Paul at 8% and Scott Walker at 6%.
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http://politicalwire.com/2015/01/17/romney-leads-gop-pack/
and another...
A new Democracy Corps (D) survey shows Hillary Clinton leading Mitt Romney in a race for president, 49% to 43%, and ahead of Jeb Bush by double-digits, 52% to 40%.
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http://politicalwire.com/2015/01/17/clinton-leads-romney-bush/
Renew Deal
(81,883 posts)I also have heard over the last couple years that Republicans have a new appreciation for Romney.
oneview
(47 posts)People need to keep in mind how difficult it is to maintain control of the White House after a 2-term President. Bush the Father was able to pull it off after 2 terms of Reagan, but it doesn't happen very often.
But now here Democrats have a candidate with tons of experience, overwhelming poll numbers, a connection to the previous President (as his Secretary of State) but is still her own person (she wasn't his Vice President, and of course fought a hot primary against him in 2008). Hillary is going to guarantee the Democrats 12, if not 16 years in the White House.
Count your blessings!
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)10% for Hillary Clinton. In an era where Obama was virtually unknown before primaries and later President, I think numbers will change after they hear their message.
brooklynite
(94,792 posts)That's a message that will resonate.
"I'm Elizabeth Warren and I support Hillary Clinton" is another message that will resonate.
oneview
(47 posts)JonLP24
(29,322 posts)the media will spend more time obsessing over her appearance as they do often do with women in politics. All I care about are policies which is why I don't support Hillary Clinton.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)but the 99% outnumbers the 1% so hearing them talk about policies, actions, etc will resonate. Hillary Clinton's message doesn't.
brooklynite
(94,792 posts)...that she's a Wall Street sellout.
LawDeeDah
(1,596 posts)I wouldn't be pounding the inevitable winner winner drums quite so loudly if I were a Hillary supporter. I would be studying up on what excuses to give if she does not.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)And created a constituiton with strong indiidual protections.
It is also why the Founding fathers set up the Senate where the Senators were appointed rather than elected.
It is also why the Founding father created the electoal college.
Yes, they feared the tyrany of the majority.