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Click here to watch "American Sniper" short version (Original Post) JackRiddler Jan 2015 OP
Glorifying a war of aggression, check. JackRiddler Jan 2015 #1
If there were no glory in these acts 2naSalit Jan 2015 #2
It's only free speech if it's something we like. HappyMe Jan 2015 #3
That's an irrational statement. JackRiddler Jan 2015 #4
Not at all irrational. HappyMe Jan 2015 #5
that's free market capitalism, and has nothing whatsoever to do with the First Amendment frylock Jan 2015 #7
In case anyone didn't get the joke... jmowreader Jan 2015 #6
the movie poster for 'A Nation's Pride' has become a meme on any 'American Sniper' threads.. frylock Jan 2015 #8
It has? Haven't seen any examples. JackRiddler Jan 2015 #9
It's about the deep suffering of a complex person. JackRiddler Jan 2015 #10
 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
1. Glorifying a war of aggression, check.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 01:09 PM
Jan 2015

Heroizing a mass murderer, exploring his poignant psychological depths, check.

Totally kills hundreds of enemy, check.

Enemy stupid, heartless, uses babies as human shields, check.

The big difference between Eastwood and Tarantino's fictionalized Goebbels is that the U.S. empire doesn't need no stinking propaganda ministry. We have a glorious multi-billion-dollar film industry.

2naSalit

(86,824 posts)
2. If there were no glory in these acts
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 01:33 PM
Jan 2015

eventually people might stop wanting to do/be that way. At least a vast majority of "thinking" people. So maybe we should start shunning these films for starters. If we refuse to give them our money to see these (box office losers) maybe they will stop making them. The intent for making such a movie may have been to expose the fallacy of the glory we afford this type of heinous practice but it seems to be serving as a rallying cry for Grand Theft Auto armchair heroes/thugs instead. So if we reject such "entertainment" maybe we can start to correct our problem.

Money talks, apparently, so if we starve the movie makers of cash for glorifying this POS, we make a loud statement. This can work both ways, rather than throwing money at something we can also withhold it, which is also considered free speech. In theory that is.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
3. It's only free speech if it's something we like.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 01:41 PM
Jan 2015

If we don't like it, then it must be stamped out by withholding money.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
4. That's an irrational statement.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 02:30 PM
Jan 2015

People get to spend their money as they like, and if they choose to boycott a movie, or to use their own speech rights to call for a boycott, that is not "stamping out" free speech. Free speech rights refer to freedom from government censorship, or at least freedom from force generally. Not paying for something is not force! By your logic, should we all be taxed to pay for Eastwood's movie, so as to protect his free speech rights?

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
5. Not at all irrational.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 02:33 PM
Jan 2015

The other poster suggested that if people didn't pay to see any type of XYZ movie, then none of those kinds would be made any more.

I still stand by it.

jmowreader

(50,566 posts)
6. In case anyone didn't get the joke...
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 02:54 PM
Jan 2015

This is the film-within-a-film from Quentin Tarantino's Inglourious Basterds.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
8. the movie poster for 'A Nation's Pride' has become a meme on any 'American Sniper' threads..
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 03:16 PM
Jan 2015

on Facebook.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
9. It has? Haven't seen any examples.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 04:31 PM
Jan 2015

I sincerely thought I was the first to notice.

Hero sniper killing 100+ enemy, check.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
10. It's about the deep suffering of a complex person.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 09:31 PM
Jan 2015

The war isn't really the question, we must judge it independently as a work of art!!!



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