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marmar

(77,082 posts)
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 11:07 AM Jan 2015

Terrorists Will Never Limit Our Free Speech, But Government Can


from the American Prospect:


Terrorists Will Never Limit Our Free Speech, But Government Can
JOSHUA HOLLAND JANUARY 14, 2015

“Lone wolf” nutjobs and small bands of extremists can't threaten our values, but our own institutions can.


Terrorists can't limit our speech. They can murder and maim, and cause widespread panic, but they don't have the capacity to threaten to our democratic values. They never have, and they never will.

The real threat is that we might voluntarily surrender some of our rights in order to defend ourselves against terrorism. In that sense, suggesting that a handful of bloodthirsty wackos have the capacity to prevent us from drawing offensive cartoons or mocking a religion gives them far more power than they actually posses.

It's true that armed extremists can shape the way society operates in fragile or failed states, where they can sometimes wield something approaching real institutional power. That's evident in countries from Nigeria to Afghanistan. But terrorism has never had an enduring impact on our way of life in the developed world; extremists have never influenced how countries with functional courts and adequate security infrastructure go about their business.

.......(snip).......

“Lone wolf” nutjobs and small bands of extremists can't threaten our values, but our own institutions can. They wield real power. History is riddled with examples, but you don't need to look further than the policies of torture, detention without trial and domestic surveillance adopted by the U.S. government following the 9/11 attacks. ...............(more)

The complete piece is at: http://prospect.org/article/terrorists-will-never-limit-our-free-speech-government-can



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Terrorists Will Never Limit Our Free Speech, But Government Can (Original Post) marmar Jan 2015 OP
K&R We live in a manipulative, malignant, authoritarian propaganda state now, woo me with science Jan 2015 #1
The French arrested a comedian for a three word Facebook post, why no outrage about that? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #2
You can ridicule the prophet, but you cannot incite hatred toward his followers. oberliner Jan 2015 #3

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
1. K&R We live in a manipulative, malignant, authoritarian propaganda state now,
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 11:54 AM
Jan 2015


and now they have us "debating" whether we really need our freedom of speech anymore.




Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. The French arrested a comedian for a three word Facebook post, why no outrage about that?
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 11:56 AM
Jan 2015

Do Americans agree with the arrest?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
3. You can ridicule the prophet, but you cannot incite hatred toward his followers.
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 12:00 PM
Jan 2015

Individuals are protected, but churches and their doctrines are not.

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