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spanone

(135,846 posts)
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 10:30 AM Jan 2015

Fox News apologizes 4 times for inaccurate comments about Muslims in Europe



Fox News took time out of four broadcasts on Saturday to apologize for four separate instances of incorrect information that portrayed Muslims in a negative light.

Several of the cases involved incendiary comments about "no-go zones" in Europe, where Islamic law supposedly supersedes local law and where non-Muslims fear to
go.

Other media outlets have accused Fox of exaggerations and falsehoods, and even British Prime Minister David Cameron mocked one of the assertions.

On Saturday, Fox apologized morning, noon and night.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/18/media/fox-apologizes-for-anti-islam-comments/index.html
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Fox News apologizes 4 times for inaccurate comments about Muslims in Europe (Original Post) spanone Jan 2015 OP
Is this from the onion? kydo Jan 2015 #1
Bingo. Very Onionesque. nt valerief Jan 2015 #3
it's cnn.....!! spanone Jan 2015 #43
I like that.. "onionesque". Cha Jan 2015 #48
Same exact first thought when I saw the headline BumRushDaShow Jan 2015 #14
I look forward to their apologies for all their other lies. Denzil_DC Jan 2015 #2
They do have Saturday Night Live... JHB Jan 2015 #23
You can't outrun polio underpants Jan 2015 #26
LOL Denzil_DC Jan 2015 #35
Too good malaise Jan 2015 #38
Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, a nephew of the king, is the second largest voting stock holder in Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #4
Fox News and all its hosts would be first in line to whip a Saudi blogger if it was Jesus blasphemy Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #36
How about they just quit lying. TexasProgresive Jan 2015 #5
"Now back to our regularily scheduled lying and hating". Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #7
I don't know if they are still doing it TexasProgresive Jan 2015 #32
Took them three fucking days...fuckers are evil, they need to apologize for existing. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #6
fox spews could "apologize" till the cows come home, joshdawg Jan 2015 #8
Fox News are terrorists, what was the purpose of these lies and hate if not to terrorize folks? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #9
They are just typical conservatives. joshdawg Jan 2015 #13
Well said! Stealing the *fox spews...* freshwest Jan 2015 #15
Too little, too late PumpkinAle Jan 2015 #10
They already won a court case that The Wizard Jan 2015 #11
Not that it will matter Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #12
The whole "No-Go Zone" thing was obviously a talking point they'd dreamed up alcibiades_mystery Jan 2015 #16
Fox News is essentially banned in Europe because folks all know who they are. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #20
My tip off was from the radio underpants Jan 2015 #25
Thanks for taking one for the team. Chemisse Jan 2015 #28
I look at it as novice opposition research underpants Jan 2015 #40
Most of my "right" friends ARE backing Holder's stop of asset forfeiture. 7962 Jan 2015 #50
Hannity is no longer on Fox tv? nt brush Jan 2015 #49
No he got bumped from 9pm to 10pm underpants Jan 2015 #51
Oh, okay. brush Jan 2015 #52
So THAT's why they apologized. Chemisse Jan 2015 #29
Fox will lie many more times before the sun sets. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #17
The lies go in, the lies go out, there is no explaining it. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #21
Case non-apology # 2,564,093 cheyanne Jan 2015 #18
It was not a mistake, it is Fox News policy. Murdock and Ailes are wel know Islamophobes.. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #22
Then how very odd that NewsCorp's second largest share holder is Muslim, a Saudi royal no less Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #42
no go zone Locrian Jan 2015 #19
The old saw about newspaper correctios applies here... JHB Jan 2015 #24
+1 n/t ejbr Jan 2015 #33
That's good start.... paleotn Jan 2015 #27
& with freaking smiles on their faces. n/t UTUSN Jan 2015 #30
They Apologize Ccarmona Jan 2015 #31
Yes and on the B League shows. Also a lot of Fox News viewers never saw this for another reason underpants Jan 2015 #41
I hope they hate the taste of crow ...no offence intended toward crows. L0oniX Jan 2015 #34
What this means is that US media and American people including Democrats malaise Jan 2015 #37
exactly....! spanone Jan 2015 #44
Hi there! malaise Jan 2015 #46
I can always tell when Faux news is lying... Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #39
To their fans, there is no wrong when there is FEAR to be had ck4829 Jan 2015 #45
Make sure you read the last bit in the story Major Nikon Jan 2015 #47
it completely cracked me up until I realized this is their audience people who want hollysmom Jan 2015 #54
Even if they were to utter apologies with every breath exhaled for the rest of 2naSalit Jan 2015 #53

kydo

(2,679 posts)
1. Is this from the onion?
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 10:40 AM
Jan 2015

Last edited Sun Jan 18, 2015, 03:03 PM - Edit history (1)

That was my first thought; "Has to be from the onion no way faux say they made a mistake we are sorry."

But oddly its real. I won't get used to faux doing this to much in the future, it would be nice though. Too bad the meme about no go zones is already out and despite the facts some rethug happily go about repeating it as fact just check out bobby what's his face from Louisiana.

BumRushDaShow

(129,130 posts)
14. Same exact first thought when I saw the headline
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 11:41 AM
Jan 2015

before I even clicked to see the OP article excerpt.

Second thought after I clicked was that they did these "apologies" on a Saturday, which probably has the least amount of viewership.

Denzil_DC

(7,244 posts)
2. I look forward to their apologies for all their other lies.
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 10:47 AM
Jan 2015

They'll need to start a whole new channel to run 24/7 alongside their existing programming.

Denzil_DC

(7,244 posts)
35. LOL
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 01:42 PM
Jan 2015

I'm not sure if that's PC, but LOL anyway.

Maybe they'll have to start apologizing for their apologies.

Whole new channel.

Rinse and repeat.

Entire world's bandwidth consumed.

Fall of civilization as we know it.

Maybe for the better in the long run.

Fox: A Force For Good, after all.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
4. Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, a nephew of the king, is the second largest voting stock holder in
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 11:00 AM
Jan 2015

NewCorp, which owns FoxNews. So of course they issue corrections when asked to do so by powerful and wealthy stockholders.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
7. "Now back to our regularily scheduled lying and hating".
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 11:12 AM
Jan 2015

If fee sppech includes the unlimited right to hate, does it also include an unlimited right to combine the hate with lies?

Because that is fucked up, and dangerous. As Fox had done and proven.

Almost like they did it on purpose...do not forget they had several shows, several guests, pushing this same fucking lie, over and over again for two days.

The greats fear of a propagandist is to be proven a liar, this may finally convince all Americans of the danger of Fox News and the use of lies and hate speech together.

Did they apologize for the vicious hate?

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
32. I don't know if they are still doing it
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 01:17 PM
Jan 2015

but it used to be every time a republican pol got in trouble they would put his name up with a D. After all their gullible viewers got it in their heads that it was a Repuke they would say Oh we erred. It's like an attorney asking a question that he knows the judge will rule against but he got it out there.

joshdawg

(2,650 posts)
8. fox spews could "apologize" till the cows come home,
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 11:12 AM
Jan 2015

and it still wouldn't mean s**t.
Just like the rest of their b.s.
Anyone watching that vomitus is a knucklehead.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. Fox News are terrorists, what was the purpose of these lies and hate if not to terrorize folks?
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 11:17 AM
Jan 2015

And there was a clear,directed purpose, do not let them squirm away for under that.

joshdawg

(2,650 posts)
13. They are just typical conservatives.
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 11:32 AM
Jan 2015

Remember FDR? The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
republicans(and fox spews): The only thing we have is fear.

PumpkinAle

(1,210 posts)
10. Too little, too late
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 11:21 AM
Jan 2015

and they got what they wanted.............. to stir their cauldron of viciousness, fear and hate.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
11. They already won a court case that
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 11:25 AM
Jan 2015

allows them to lie without compunction. It's in the Republican DNA.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
12. Not that it will matter
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 11:25 AM
Jan 2015

The Fox watchers will believe the original story and ignore the correction, believe what they want to believe.

Have to admit, my ears perked up when I heard about that particular lie. I live just down teh road from Birmingham and my closest friend lives in London.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
16. The whole "No-Go Zone" thing was obviously a talking point they'd dreamed up
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 11:58 AM
Jan 2015

based on some weirdo comments by probably National Front Britons last summer.

It was as if they were waiting to deploy it and repeat it ad nauseum: no-go zone, no-go zone, no-go zone, no-go zone. It's precisely the sort of asinine soundbite that Fox News is famous for, and that they know works for their imbecile audience.

They didn't expect the push back and mockery. The basic truism is that Fox News almost structurally misunderstands Europe and Europeans (and I'll grudgingly include the English in that group, though I know they'd hate that). Fox didn't realize the force of European mockery, the disdain and contempt it could produce. They've backed down so humiliatingly because they got trounced by anyone in Europe (and England) who wanted to slap them around a bit.

Make no mistake, "no-go zones" was coordinated American conservative propaganda. It wasn't a one-off from a moronic pundit, but a propaganda decision made at the heart of the Fox editorial circle. And it failed fucking miserably. That they got burned on it is hilarious, of course, but also a testament to how laughable their entire operation is in European eyes.

underpants

(182,835 posts)
25. My tip off was from the radio
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 12:31 PM
Jan 2015

I listen in to RW radio in the car mainly to hear what the next nonsense storyline is going to be and also to debunk their story lines. I have gotten pretty good and figuring out what is missing or just flat out a lie while in the car. I then will do a google search on it that night.

The tip off for me was hearing Hannity pound this into his audience's heads every night for about a week. THAT was when I knew it was BS. Hannity is on tape delay at our local station so I hear a bit of it on the drive home. Hannity has had a Dick Morris/Bill Krystol run of late repeatedly carrying the water on things that end up blowing up in his face - Cliven Bundy, Witness 40, and now the "no-go zones". He is an idiot but usually he just repeats the daily talking points. He appears to be going out on his own probably trying to get back some of the territory he has lost since getting bumped from his time slot on Fox.

underpants

(182,835 posts)
40. I look at it as novice opposition research
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 02:12 PM
Jan 2015

You can hear Limbaugh quite often take a self-pause (almost throwing up in his mouth) as he spews complete nonsense. But, if Rush says it, it will be on all the other shows and Fox News by the end of the day.

The funniest one I have heard recently on the radio was the local afternoon guy (that is why Hannity is on tape delay) who thought Obama's community college idea was not bad. He added in some Mike Rowe learn-a-trade stuff. Oh my god the callers came out of the woodworks. They couldn't compute that ANYTHING from Obama could in anyway be other than disastrous or the end of civilization as we know it. He continually tried to explain that he was with them but to just consider it. Nope they were not having any of it. Hilarious.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
50. Most of my "right" friends ARE backing Holder's stop of asset forfeiture.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 12:16 PM
Jan 2015

I say "most", but since I posted that story NONE have said anything negative. A few "I cant believe it" comments, but all have still been supportive. I look at it as an issue that both sides can move on.

brush

(53,792 posts)
52. Oh, okay.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 01:05 PM
Jan 2015

Thanks for the info. Of course I don't watch Fox but I was hoping he was gone altogether.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
17. Fox will lie many more times before the sun sets.
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 12:03 PM
Jan 2015

Without their misleading and lies they would have nothing.

cheyanne

(733 posts)
18. Case non-apology # 2,564,093
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 12:05 PM
Jan 2015

Method: Did I just call you a derp?

Apologize for lies by repeating them as in:

"This applies especially to discussions of so-called 'no-go zones,' areas where non-Muslims allegedly aren't allowed in, and police supposedly won't go."

Good use of "so-called", "allegedly" and "supposedly". This implies that there is somewhere, somehow, there is some actual basis for the lies and the apology is just a minor correction that does not invalidate the basic lie.

"Some of the neighborhoods were highlighted incorrectly," she said. "We apologize for the error."

Good use of "some" to imply that there are correctly highlighted neighborhoods.

Method: Why do I have to waste my time apologizing?

Avoid any mention of the people directly targeted by lies:

"We deeply regret the errors, and apologize to any and all who may have taken offense, including the people of France and England."

Use of "may" to imply that only a few crackpots would take offense.

Method: This is just a one time slip-up.

No mention that this is just an ongoing policy of targeting Muslims and that world-wide outcry was the only reason that there was a non-apology issued.









 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
42. Then how very odd that NewsCorp's second largest share holder is Muslim, a Saudi royal no less
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 02:21 PM
Jan 2015

Keeper of the holy places and all that. What sort of a person and practice does he demonstrate by that behavior?

JHB

(37,161 posts)
24. The old saw about newspaper correctios applies here...
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 12:27 PM
Jan 2015

"...It implies that everything else was correct."

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
27. That's good start....
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 12:49 PM
Jan 2015

now they should apologize for damn near everything else they've said since 1996. I'm not holding my breath.

underpants

(182,835 posts)
41. Yes and on the B League shows. Also a lot of Fox News viewers never saw this for another reason
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 02:14 PM
Jan 2015

Fox News has still not settled with the Dish Network (as far as I know). Their viewers are literally in the wilderness right now.

malaise

(269,063 posts)
37. What this means is that US media and American people including Democrats
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 01:57 PM
Jan 2015

do not call Fox on their fugging lies and humiliate them. Fox cannot get away with their lies anywhere in Europe. Not only do they get away with their lies on the US Corporate media, but the other channels also spread them willingly including said CNN, GEM$NBComcast and the rest of them.

malaise

(269,063 posts)
46. Hi there!
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 06:43 PM
Jan 2015

How exactly did free speech allow people to have the right to decide that Barack Obama was not born in America despite the facts. How did that get so much airplay. Meanwhile Dan Rather was kicked off of one station for stating the truth about George Bush.

And they get away with the lies - all of them - in the US.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
47. Make sure you read the last bit in the story
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 06:48 PM
Jan 2015
Pirro, on her 9 p.m. show, also said "we deeply regret these errors."

Then she encouraged viewers to vote in her show's weekly Internet poll: "Will our free speech suffer so that we can say nothing negative about Islam?"


You can't fix stupid.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
54. it completely cracked me up until I realized this is their audience people who want
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 01:52 PM
Jan 2015

to believe those lies.

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
53. Even if they were to utter apologies with every breath exhaled for the rest of
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 01:51 PM
Jan 2015

our and their lives, it still wouldn't be enough.

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