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The chief of police in St. Louis County, Missouri has issued an apology to a 22-year-old student who was brutally beaten by police officers who were pursuing another man.
According to KMOV Channel 4, officers were in pursuit of a suspect named Anton Simmons on Interstate 70 outside St. Louis on Thursday when student Joseph Swink lost control of his car and crashed as he attempted to make way for police vehicles.
As his car began to fill with smoke, Swink ran from the vehicle, only to be tackled and beaten bloody by officers who mistook him for Simmons, who had 17 separate warrants out for his arrest.
They ended up grabbing him [Swink], tossing him to the ground, and were trying to handcuff him, said St. Ann Police Chief Aaron Jimenez in a press conference on Friday. All the sirens and lights were going off. It was very loud and they couldnt hear anything the citizen was saying.
Swink suffered serious injuries to his left ear and his vehicle was totaled. He is an accounting student at University of Missouri St. Louis with no criminal record. He was on his way home from an internship when he accidentally became involved in the police chase.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/st-louis-cops-apologize-for-beating-wrong-black-man-bloody-in-chase-after-suspect/
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Of course, none of the assaulting cops will be charged.
Nor would they have been charged had they murdered him.
TexasTowelie
(112,252 posts)He even had on a nice shirt and necktie.
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)by chasing this guy for warrants (not even, apparently, for immediate danger?), they cause this other guy to crash in the pursuit, and don't notice it's a different fucking guy and they beat the shit out of him?
Fucking great at their jobs, these cops. Holy shit.
cstanleytech
(26,298 posts)it doesnt say that the police caused it and no pulling over does not = "cause" as its like if you are pulling over for an ambulance or for a fire truck in that unless your hit by them you will be found at fault if you cause a wreck not the ambulance or fire department.
The physical damage he suffered when they tried to mistakenly arrest him is another story altogether and he should sue the fuck out of them for that because they screwed up big time.
Not saying 10,000,000 but around the area of a 500,000 to 1,000,000 is imo warranted and thats only if the police department doesnt resist paying it, if they resist then I would go for 10,000,000 if I was in his shoes.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)cstanleytech
(26,298 posts)If you want to post a link to this other article wherever it is I welcome it of course.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)plus a quote from the victim.
cstanleytech
(26,298 posts)Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)after being hit by Simmons' car. http://www.policeone.com/chiefs-sheriffs/articles/8141759-Mo-police-chief-apologizes-after-officers-cuff-wrong-man-after-chase/
He wouldn't have crashed if the cops weren't in high speed pursuit of Simmons on an interstate.
Unless there is some detail missing to indicate that Simmons was an immediate threat to the public (wielding or firing a gun, for example), there is no excuse for risking a highway full of innocent lives in pursuit of him. I'm not going to parse around whether the cause of and/or responsibility for the crash lands on Simmons or the cops, but it sure as shit isn't Swink's fault, and it sure as shit wouldn't have happened if the cops hadn't pursued the suspect on an interstate.
Car chases are cool in the movies. In real life they are generally unnecessary, reckless, and end with a high cost to taxpayers.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Minding your own business and end up in a hornets nest.
cstanleytech
(26,298 posts)the one who is unless of course it comes out later that he hit Swink after the police hit him then it will be the fault of the police though Swink should still sue the shit out of the police for the pain and suffering they put him through imo.
Oklahoma_Liberal
(69 posts)One is a crime one is lawful.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)he wasn't killed.
Amazed he wasn't actually.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)had better be prepared to shell out a handsome settlement to Mr. Swink. He won't have to worry about paying off his student loans, that's for sure.
liberalhistorian
(20,818 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 18, 2015, 02:35 AM - Edit history (1)
won't be paying anything, the taxpayers will. Make the police pay for their incompetent murderous brutality out of their own pension funds and you'll see this shit end yesterday.
oneview
(47 posts)NBachers
(17,122 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)Police officers have immunity. In virtually all situations, as long as the act was done during their official duties the police can't be sued. The government the police were working for is liable, and can be sued.
The worst the victim can do is make St. Louis county pay him a lot of money. Meaning the St. Louis county taxpayers get to pay for their police, and then pay for their police beating him.
In theory, St. Louis county could discipline the officers, up to firing them. Not likely to happen, if history is any guide.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)because he/she was negligent or malicious he/she should be fired.
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)Chakab
(1,727 posts)No, they beat the living shit out of him. If you're going to apologize, give an accurate account of what happened.
Taitertots
(7,745 posts)Hitting and handcuffing are mutually exclusive tasks.
It's like getting caught masterbating at work and saying "it's ok, I was just trying to map a network drive".
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Sorry we got the wrong one. Sick. Really sick. The police need to pay all his medical bills, buy him a new car, and pay all his school expenses until graduation. Sick.
livingonearth
(728 posts)even if they had got the right guy, they're not supposed to beat him!
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)you can't even make up this level of incompetence.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Swink should consider himself fortunate
christx30
(6,241 posts)That's pretty much their position. "You don't know what it's like being a cop. You should accept the handcuff and beating and sue Simmons for your injuries."
Because I guess the cops did nothing wrong.
Ramses
(721 posts)and sure the department into oblivion. Bankrupt that corrupt ass city and the entire police department
lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)No one in that dept really GAF. The predators involved in
this beating will do it again and again. Nothing will change.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Dwb gets you beaten to a pulp but hey, they apologized so no biggie.
What are they doing to make sure it doesn't happen again?
hughee99
(16,113 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)TexasTowelie
(112,252 posts)http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/01/17/3612876/police-beat-wrong-person/
My apologies for the graphic content.
malaise
(269,056 posts)don't yah know all black people look alike!
They are pigs
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)TexasTowelie
(112,252 posts)I'm referring to the cops involved being pigs, not that all black people look alike.
malaise
(269,056 posts)Didn't think I needed the smilie
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)brer cat
(24,578 posts)But you know he will be skewered if he does, like the beer summit with Henry Louis Gates. Of course, at this point in his administration he probably doesn't give a fig. I am in hopes that Holder will drop a bomb on St. Louis County leos before he leaves office.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)St. Ann is in St. Louis County. The article is very poorly written.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)JI7
(89,252 posts)Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)cstanleytech
(26,298 posts)gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)they're all like that..pumped up rage aholics with anti social personalities.
Logical
(22,457 posts)markpkessinger
(8,401 posts)The article at Raw Story states:
"Chief Jimenez said that his department made an honest mistake and has apologized for the incident. The force is currently updating its radio system to assure that all officers are receiving up-to-the-minute information during police pursuits."
Pursuing the wrong person was an honest mistake. Police who believe it is their job to beat people to a pulp represent everything that is wrong with American policing today. Even if he had been the correct suspect, he would still be entitled to a presumption of innocence. Guilt is for a jury to decide, and punishment for a judge to impose, irrespective of how angry police may be with a given suspect. When police take it upon themselves to determine guilt and inflict punishment, at that point they are no better than any random vigilante.