Man arrested for filming execution in Saudi

[Jesus Malverde]

Police in the western Saudi city of Makkah have arrested a policeman for filming secretly the public execution of a Burmese woman.

The policeman was among the staff assigned with the preparations for the execution in Makkah, Okaz news site reported on Saturday.

The suspect, who was not named, will face charges in a military court as well as in a Shariah court for his act, the daily added.

He will be referred to the courts following the completion of the investigation by the public prosecution.

On Wednesday, a human rights group called for taking action against whoever filmed the execution of the woman and posted on social networks, arguing that it was a breach of privacy rights.

However, the Makkah-based National Society for Human Rights (NSHR) said that whoever filmed the execution should be identified and punished.

NSHR Member Mohammad Al Sahli said that the authorities should have taken all precautionary measures, including the use of undercover agents, to prevent the filming of the execution.

The authorities should now track the video clip all the way to its source, identify those who filmed it and punish them, he said, local daily Makkah reported on Thursday.

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi-arabia/man-arrested-for-filming-execution-in-saudi-1.1442657

Link to the video, it's gruesome, and cannot be unseen. Her cries are horrific, and her death brutal.
Warning ITS HORRIFIC.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3fe_1421494996

[Nuclear Unicorn]

1. Playing a little fast and loose with the idea of what a human rights group is supposed to be.

[Jesus Malverde]

2. The only human rights in Saudi Arabia belong to the monarchy.

What a sad sick joke.

[TheBlackAdder]

3. I thought Human Rights Groups would want atrocities exposed to prevent future deaths.. nt

[Nuclear Unicorn]

5. Perhaps they have taken to saying, "Those whom I dispapprove of are not human."

[sharp_stick]

4. I thought the Saudi

dirtbags were all about the "public" when they wack someone.

Fucking animals. I hope those pieces of shit sleep well at night hearing her screams.

[TheBlackAdder]

7. They are. They killed her in public view. They just didn't want the West to know about it! nt

[TeamPooka]

6. exposing barbarism is a good thing.

[cwydro]

8. I won't watch the video,

but I can imagine it.

I wish I couldn't.

More floggings, I suppose, for the guy who filmed it.

What a lovely society. What a loving, peaceful religion.

[Major Nikon]

9. Texas has about the same population

And only executes about half as many.

[cwydro]

10. yeah,

I think there's a Texas beheading on youtube somewhere. ..

[Major Nikon]

11. Nah, they are far too civilized for that

The method used makes a huge difference.

[cwydro]

13. Well, here in the US

there is a lengthy legal path to the death penalty.

And women have equal rights in the courts.

But, you already know that - right?

For the record, I'm against the death penalty.

[Major Nikon]

15. All true

So we can certainly say we are somewhat more civilized than Saudi Arabia. Pretty much the entire rest of the world, not so much.

[cwydro]

17. We can say

That we're living in a different century than Saudi Arabia.

[Major Nikon]

19. Perhaps 2

Prior to the discovery of oil in Saudi Arabia, their country hadn't changed much for at least 2,000 yrs if not more.

It's also true that 40 years ago much of the 'civilized' world was still putting people to death for various crimes. So some countries never really learned how to progress and some forgot.

[cwydro]

23. The western world

seems to be a bit ahead of certain countries.

With the exception of US, the west does not have the death penalty.

[LadyHawkAZ]

20. We're allowed to criticize Texas, though

without being accused of racist imperialism.

[Major Nikon]

21. You'd be surprised

[kcr]

24. You haven't seen the Texas threads on DU, have you? n/t

[LadyHawkAZ]

27. I haven't been around much lately

Enlighten me with a link or two.

[kcr]

28. It's nothing new. I'm not going to go search for links.

But try posting something critical about Texas if you don't believe me.

[cwydro]

25. ...

[GoneOffShore]

12. And the apologists for this will appear shortly.

Though if you want another perspective on them - http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/meet-the-honor-brigade-an-organized-campaign-to-silence-critics-of-islam/2015/01/16/0b002e5a-9aaf-11e4-a7ee-526210d665b4_story.html

[cwydro]

16. Thanks for this link.

Interesting.

But not surprising.

[JonLP24]

29. Who the hell is an apologist for the 'House of Saud'?

Besides US Presidents & US foreign policy? "Defense of Saudi Arabia is vital for Defense of United States"

“These countries .?.?. think they own the Muslim community and all interpretations of Islam.” Describes Saudi Arabia to a 'T'. You have to realize, they were the first nation of its kind that adopted this particular doctrine and oil exports helped to expand the movement where Muslims were the primary victims.

[Jesus Malverde]

31. They have an army of paid PR flacks.

Public Relation firms would drool at the prospects of representing those freaks with trillions to spend.

[JonLP24]

33. I don't disagree or doubt that

but the article mentions an organization with 57 members but cites a Kuwaiti government official making a complaint as evidence of dominant minorities (such as Kuwait & Saudi Arabia monarchy who share the same or very similar ideologies) would have interest in identifying Islamophobia or keeping Islamic critiques to a minimum when it appears to be an organization committed to similar goals no different than Anti-Defamation League or any organization.

I any case, he still shows a very limited lack of understanding when it comes to theology, origin, & existence of the many branches which the one that Islam takes the vast majority of the heat for was the same that was concerned about the Hajj, just to highlight the differences. You disagree, you get your head chopped off. If not he is cherry picking facts to support an Islamic specific broad generalization which comes close if not to the definition of bigotry.

The problem with Saudi Arabia & other similar dominant minorities is they publicize what they think a true Muslim looks like & brutally enforce their strict interpretation of Islam (Muslim or no Muslim, you disagree you get your head chopped off) so I'm not sure they have an interest in keeping it a secret. They certainly rationalize modernization in the interest of petro dollars but think of those countries like the Koch Brothers in what they choose to invest in, there is a reason why ISIS can afford the salaries they do.

Wouldn't be the first time someone compromised their values for money but while a lot of articles focus on mafia style racketeering few mention gulfs wealthy "angel" investors and a lot downplay it or say it stopped but even very fewer mention the lack of red flags Kuwaiti & Qatar banks have in comparison to Saudi banks who already have to have their arms twisted to get them to oppose ISIS even though they may want to advance further back into civilization, they're already ahead of them in rationalization the use of modern technology to accomplish that goal.

[Jesus Malverde]

35. The petro dollars subsidize a lot in the west.

A gem of a hotel the fairmont in san francisco is owned by petro riches, Im sure they lose a bunch but it seems par for the course. Great analysis BTW thanks!

[Bluenorthwest]

32. Good lord. People claim that Saudi Arabia is as 'gay friendly' as San Francisco, they even mention

Castro Street. 'Benign acceptance' for Saudi gay people they say. But the Kingdom actually beats jails and kills gay people.

[JonLP24]

36. I haven't seen any evidence of that

especially comparing it to San Francisco. They have built American and/or tolerated the existence of American compounds in the interests of keeping Americans & their families employed in the petroleum industry happy to give them a home away from home which featured American style streets, signs, homes, & high school football. Those that mention this usually are aware of the give & take nature of US & Gulf alliances. Qatar goes even further in tolerating these existences which 4-day passes given to deployed Army units were given (my unit only gave them to high milers).

When I first arrived in Kuwait, I was more aware than the average citizen of cultural distances which explains why I thought prohibiting alcohol & pornography (a NCO even received an article 15 for a file on his computer) were SOP until I heard the old timers talk about the good old days of being deployed in the Yugoslavia Wars and still being able to drink, not to mention the product placement of Budweiser in Vietnam War movies.

Later on this was part of give & take for allowing strategic advancing & planning, not to mention being a very key point A for logistics. In return they agreed to enforce local laws but thankfully it didn't include as serious punishment (though Chelsea Manning who was a pretrial defendant at Camp Arif Jan attracted international attention). I remember one mission where our platoon under convoys under our Platoon Sergeant had a perfect track record in never hitting an IED all year was tasked with a very important mission to transport weapons (only time we were specifically informed as to the contents of our cargo) where we changed every single tire, fixed every light, installed brand new shipping container locks, the works all to transport the grand distance from Arif Jan to Kuwaiti Naval Base but the reason why I tell this story is we were informed to salute Kuwaiti Naval Officers which if they gave a similar requirement for European military, I can't remember it. Give & take.

[JonLP24]

14. They like to publicize them, do them in public

as an example to keep the rest in line but they must be coming under some heavy pressure from the international community, mainly the US.

The signs that Saudi Arabia & US are moving further apart is a great sign when the only 2 things we had in common were oil (as well as enemies communism, Iran, now Russia).

[Ramses]

18. The fact that the US and Saudi Arabia are allies

and both torture and execute their citizens in such horrific fashions should reveal the rot and sociopathy that control much of the world. Both through military and economic means

[Tom Ripley]

26. +1000

[Takket]

22. hmmmm...

"authorities should have taken all precautionary measures, including the use of undercover agents, to prevent the filming of the execution"

hey, you know another good way to make sure public beheadings aren't filmed? DON'T HAVE PUBLIC BEHEADINGS!!!!!!!!!!

[lpbk2713]

30. They held the execution in a parking lot.

It seems rather absurd for them to refer to filming it as a violation of privacy.

[glasshouses]

34. I am disgusted by these animals

Why can't they kill their people in a more gentle manner ?

We should be proud because we are so much more civilized when our government kills our own citizens .

[Jesus Malverde]

38. You forgot the sarcasm thingy.

They are sick, your post was half right.

I'm guessing you wouldn't have written that tripe if you had watched the video. Watch it and get back to me.

[glasshouses]

39. I won't watch it but we hold no moral high ground in our justice system

[Jesus Malverde]

40. Then your sarcasm has no merit,

and your comments no value.

At least your honest enough to admit it.

They are savages of the worse kind, those who killed her, the whole lot of them. They murdered Laila Bint Abdul Muttalib Basim in a brutal horrific manner.

Listen to her screams and let us know what you think.

[glasshouses]

41. Ever watch a person killed in the chair?

Watch that then get back to me.

[Jesus Malverde]

42. I've seen it, and knowing the system of justice we have currently vs. absolute rule of a monarch,

I know your blowing smoke and using the brutal murder of Laila Bint Abdul Muttalib to grind an axe. Sometimes moral relativism is a big #FAIL.

[glasshouses]

43. There is no moral relativism

A dead person is just a dead person killed by the state.

We are just better at hiding it from public view.

[Jesus Malverde]

44. Ok

[Trillo]

37. Censorship specifically enables entrapment.

Censoring the execution prevents the spread of knowledge regarding religious belief in that area. Perhaps it is common knowledge amongst locals as is frequently asserted, but maybe there are exceptions, such as some children. Censorship of this can be dangerous to children who don't yet know about it, as well as to adults of other localities who may travel there for various reasons.

How'd you like to go there on a business trip, meet this fantastic same-sex partner at the hotel's coffee shop, and then get executed by religious authorities because you didn't understand the extreme intolerance? Better that the executions be public knowledge and be publicly propagated.

That human rights associations are calling for censorship seems completely off base. Particularly privacy concerns seems kinda stupid, given that she's dead. Why would she care?

Censorship specifically enables entrapment.

[G_j]

45. we don't allow filming of executions here either nt