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avebury

(10,952 posts)
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 05:04 PM Jan 2015

Well this is one way to deal with had cops

Cops Worried After Citizens Engage in a New Form of Crowd-Funded, Direct Action Against Police State

STOCKTON — Citizens in Stockton, California have taken a new approach to activism.

Rather than sticking to the traditional form of protest in which signs are held and slogans are chanted, these citizens have taken direct action and offered a grassroots, crowd-funded incentive structure to end police brutality in their community.

They have offered a $2,500 reward to anybody who submits information leading to the arrest or termination of cops who brutalize or kill people.

They were able to let people know about the offer by printing all the details on flyers and spreading them throughout their community.

The flyer specifically names 15 cops as a start, and includes pictures of at least 10 cops who have been involved in either the brutalization or killing of Americans.

The words “Know Your Killer Cops” are printed on the flyers, along with instructions to film any police brutality and a location where the footage can be submitted.

“Stockton police have been getting away with terrorizing our citizens for far too long,” the flyer says.

“It is time to take back our street."

There is also a Stockton Police Department Corruption Reporting page on facebook where citizens can submit the footage.

The flyers were given out at the local courthouse and seem to have motivated citizens even more to start scrutinizing the actions of police.

With a $2,500 reward and with so many Americans unemployed, it is not hard to imagine many spending all day in the streets monitoring cops and starting their own patrols to earn the money.

One wonders what would happen if such a reward system was increased, offered nationwide, crowd-funded online, or funded by wealthy anti-authoritarians.

http://filmingcops.com/police-furious-after-citizens-engage-in-a-new-form-of-crowd-funded-direct-action-against-police-state/

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A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
3. Many communities could just expand upon their
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 06:20 PM
Jan 2015

neighborhood watch organizations. Call it the neighborhood crook and cop watch. Use the reward to buy T-shirts, have a block party, tickets to front row seats at the trial, or maybe just some cameras in the neighborhood to watch the cops... errr, I mean the crooks.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
10. FYI - Neighborhood Watch programs are funded by and
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 08:28 PM
Jan 2015

overseen by sheriff's or police dept's. via the Dept. of Justice.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
4. Won't that render their testimony deeply unconvincing?
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 06:33 PM
Jan 2015

I can see this leading to positive consequences if it leads to people coming forward which, in turn, leads to substantive evidence.

But "Is it correct, sir/madam, that you stand to profit to the tune of $2,500 if my client is convicted on the strength of your testimony?" is going to severely undercut the credibility of most witnesses

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
5. I had been assuming there would be video evidence
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 06:41 PM
Jan 2015

or other supporting evidence in any case that is brought to trial.

Certainly no DA is going to prosecute a cop unless they're pretty sure they can get a conviction.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
6. Hence, I guess, the unusual business with the grand jury for Wilson.
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 06:55 PM
Jan 2015

While I don't know for sure, my guess is that the reason the prosecutor took the practically-unique step of putting all the evidence in front of a grand jury was that he knew he probably couldn't get a conviction, but didn't want to be blamed for taking the decision not to prosecute unilaterally.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
8. If that were true, it would also invalidate
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 07:13 PM
Jan 2015

all other cases in which rewards were offered for information to solve other crimes.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
11. Most rewards are to help find people, not convict them, aren't they?
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 04:06 AM
Jan 2015

My understanding is that in general, rewards are offered for information leading to the *finding* of people against whom there's already massive evidence of serious crimes.

In those cases where rewards are offered for testimony, not information, yes, it obviously will raise questions.

rgbecker

(4,832 posts)
13. In the American Way justice system, testimony is bought with plea deals.
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 10:37 AM
Jan 2015

"Just tell the jury it was your friend that shot the clerk, and we'll make sure you only get time served."

But, no surprise, everyone thinks it's the truth that comes out!

I say Bullshit.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
12. And that worked out so well for some of the
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 07:17 AM
Jan 2015

innocent people who ended up in Guantanamo Bay and other parts unknown.

The US Government didn't seem to have any problem with offering rewards in Afghanistan or Iraq.

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