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MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 07:03 PM Jan 2015

A point about the Satire of Charlie Hebdo lost on Americans

This goes back to the French Revolution.

When the Aristocracy was overthrown, the revolutionaries were also pissed at the Roman Church because the church propped up the Aristocracy for centuries. In fact, one of the goals of the revolution became the overthrow of Christianity itself to be replaced by the cult of reason.

So political sacrilege towards ANYTHING religious has a long history in France.

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A point about the Satire of Charlie Hebdo lost on Americans (Original Post) MohRokTah Jan 2015 OP
Crazy people + guns RobertEarl Jan 2015 #1
It does indeed, and this (French heritage) former Catholic would like... MANative Jan 2015 #2
Wow. I don't know ALL organized religions well enough brer cat Jan 2015 #10
Long live reason! flamingdem Jan 2015 #3
Yes, all Americans are ignorant of French history. tabasco Jan 2015 #4
Not all, but many if not most are. Coventina Jan 2015 #7
Rec nilesobek Jan 2015 #5
And it's a point lost on most. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #6
You just gave me the biggest laugh I've had all day. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2015 #8
Go look at the wingnut sites MohRokTah Jan 2015 #9
Unfortunately there's a lot of DU ignorance about French history with religion riderinthestorm Jan 2015 #12
The French law banning religious symbols has enormous widespread support riderinthestorm Jan 2015 #11

MANative

(4,112 posts)
2. It does indeed, and this (French heritage) former Catholic would like...
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 07:10 PM
Jan 2015

nothing more than all organized religion to be completely abolished. I've been convinced for better than thirty years that it is, in fact, the actual root of all evil. Faith is something else entirely, if one chooses to believe in a higher power. The lampooning is well-deserved, no matter what religion you can name.

brer cat

(24,568 posts)
10. Wow. I don't know ALL organized religions well enough
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 09:57 PM
Jan 2015

to declare them ALL the root of ALL evil, but perhaps I haven't studied as hard as you have. I have a particular fondness for UU, but I guess their talk about equality, compassion, peace, liberty, and justice is just a front to hide ALL that evil. Guess I better start lampooning them...I think I will start where they encourage acceptance of one another.

Coventina

(27,120 posts)
7. Not all, but many if not most are.
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 08:00 PM
Jan 2015

Sadly, many are unaware of the role the French played in winning independence for the United States.

nilesobek

(1,423 posts)
5. Rec
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 07:45 PM
Jan 2015

Napoleon easily managed to remove the Pope. France does have a long history of sacrilege, to their credit.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
6. And it's a point lost on most.
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 07:49 PM
Jan 2015

Many here would understand, but DU is exceptional in how well informed its membership can be.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
9. Go look at the wingnut sites
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 08:08 PM
Jan 2015

Nobody there would understand the historical context of the political sacrilege evident through French culture.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
12. Unfortunately there's a lot of DU ignorance about French history with religion
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:09 PM
Jan 2015

And their fierce devotion to secularism.

Just had a go around this afternoon here...



 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
11. The French law banning religious symbols has enormous widespread support
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:07 PM
Jan 2015

Including the Muslim population who see it as a bulwark against extremism.

K&R!

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