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pampango

(24,692 posts)
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 07:56 AM Jan 2015

As always, terrorism will empower the right/conservatives and hurt the left/liberals.

9/11 empowered our far-right to do many evil things. 1/7 may do the same in France and elsewhere in Europe.

There is some hope of avoiding this as Europe is a more liberal place in many ways than the US is, but it will be challenging. The loop of terrorism empowering the right which love to impose harsh responses which lead to repression that generates conditions that often create terrorism which leads to more harsh right-wing responses - seems to go on forever

The anti-immigrant, Islamophobic far-right in Europe will be empowered by the terrorist attack in Paris. Liberals who have been counter-demonstrating against the anti-Muslim marches will be weakened. It will be tough, but the left will have to keep fighting in support of multi-culturalism and diversity.

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As always, terrorism will empower the right/conservatives and hurt the left/liberals. (Original Post) pampango Jan 2015 OP
Speaking of increased terrorism 90-percent Jan 2015 #1
Yes - it shouldn't be true but... jimlup Jan 2015 #2
That was the point of 9/11 RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #4
WTF? blackspade Jan 2015 #6
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Name removed was a monoculturist. Cha Jan 2015 #10
Bummer, missed the replies.... blackspade Jan 2015 #14
Because everyone I know loves a multiculture and enjoys diversity. It doesn't "divide us" .. it Cha Jan 2015 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #9
That's because there is no difference between..... blackspade Jan 2015 #5
+1 Scuba Jan 2015 #13
Ironic, since the perpetrators themselves appear Buenaventura Jan 2015 #11
I don't know about "ironic". Seems to me that Bush and Ahmadinejad used to use each other actions pampango Jan 2015 #12

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
1. Speaking of increased terrorism
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 08:46 AM
Jan 2015

In general, from what I understand about how American Military Might conducts itself in other parts of the world, our MILITARY INDUSTRIAL CONGRESSIONAL SURVEILLANCE COMPLEX has given themselves a few future generations of full, increasing and lucrative employment.

Because all the people we murder in the name of fighting the war on terror have families, friends and communities. It is really like they're aggressively manufacturing generations of blow back and nobody could have predicted consequences on purpose or something?

And the people that make such decisions are doing so just to insure they own more car elevators, private jets, mansions and country club memberships. U.S. military and intelligence Terrorist extermination programs means more wealth for sociopaths that already have more money than one hundred members of the bottom 99% could spend in their lifetimes.



-90% jimmy

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
2. Yes - it shouldn't be true but...
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 08:48 AM
Jan 2015

too many people don't bother to think and instead react purely on emotion. I wonder about long term strategy and how we could help to counter this effect?

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
3. That was the point of 9/11
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 08:50 AM
Jan 2015

9/11 was an inside job, whose main purpose was to instill fear in the American public. This allowed the establishment to take away civil rights, while the public was okay with it. It was also a means for the war profiteers to make money by declaring war on a country that meant no threat, and never attacked us. They knew it was coming, and chose to let it happen, so that they could accomplish these goals.

This lead to the creation of more terrorist organizations worldwide, who are going around and attacking folks everywhere.

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Cha

(297,269 posts)
8. Because everyone I know loves a multiculture and enjoys diversity. It doesn't "divide us" .. it
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 09:19 AM
Jan 2015

strengthens us.

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blackspade

(10,056 posts)
5. That's because there is no difference between.....
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 09:09 AM
Jan 2015

Islamic right/conservatives and Christian Right/conservatives.
Each empowers the other, and the rest of us suffer for it.

Buenaventura

(364 posts)
11. Ironic, since the perpetrators themselves appear
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 09:59 AM
Jan 2015

to have been ultra-rightwing, “conservative” members of their religion. Somewhat like Pat Robertson, although of a different denomination.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
12. I don't know about "ironic". Seems to me that Bush and Ahmadinejad used to use each other actions
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:07 AM
Jan 2015

and statements to scare rignt-wing fundamentalists - and as many regular people as possible - in their respective countries. Right wingers are usually super-patriots, super-nationalists, super-regligionists (if that is real word). It is useful for them that that someone or some group from another nation and/or religion can be used as their foil to whip up political support.

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