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MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 07:27 PM Jan 2015

Officer Who Shot 12-Year-Old Tamir Rice Failed Sheriff Department Exam

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Officer Who Shot 12-Year-Old Tamir Rice Failed Sheriff Department Exam

The Cleveland police officer who shot and killed 12-year-old Tamir Rice had previously failed the written exam to be a deputy in the Cuyahoga County Sheriff's Department, according to documents reviewed by the Northeast Ohio Media Group.

Timothy Loehmann took the exam in September 2013 and scored a 46 percent on the cognitive exam administered by the department. The department considers a 70 percent a passing score.

Loehmann did pass the physical exam, but the Cuyahoga County Sheriff's Department did not ultimately accept his application to be a deputy sheriff, according to the Northeast Ohio Media Group.

Loehmann resigned from the Independence police department in 2012 after a poor performance review. He applied to numerous police departments before he was hired in Cleveland, according to the media group.

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Officer Who Shot 12-Year-Old Tamir Rice Failed Sheriff Department Exam (Original Post) MohRokTah Jan 2015 OP
This won't look good for safeinOhio Jan 2015 #1
don't agree about batchelor's degree hollysmom Jan 2015 #3
Some pretty giant jackasses hold bachelor degrees.... how about require them to score ScreamingMeemie Jan 2015 #5
Eh, I don't think the degree would make much diffrence... Lancero Jan 2015 #6
I guess a teacher could be good teachers with out a degree too. safeinOhio Jan 2015 #12
BEAUTIFUL.......... MyOwnPeace Jan 2015 #13
I think the fallout Turbineguy Jan 2015 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author otohara Jan 2015 #4
it usually a bad cop or incompetent cop. pansypoo53219 Jan 2015 #7
The problem is, the rest of the cops MUST STOP protecting the bad and incompetent cops. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #8
+1000 TrollBuster9090 Jan 2015 #11
Amazing. So, these are the qualifications required to be a Cleveland Police Officer these days... TrollBuster9090 Jan 2015 #9
He also cwydro Jan 2015 #10

safeinOhio

(32,714 posts)
1. This won't look good for
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 07:45 PM
Jan 2015

Cleveland in any civil suit.

Pay police more
require at least a bachelor degree
hold them to a high standard on the job.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
3. don't agree about batchelor's degree
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 08:09 PM
Jan 2015

people either have street smarts or they don't - a degree does not change that. The main problem is that police "help" each other and treat each one like a special little princess. So delicate bad names can hurt them. The police man who piulled his gun on me when I was 24 had a degree, but also some sort of weird ego that told him all women should submit to him. But then he was a drugged up baby. Luckily for me, his partner had a brain - that he should not kill me in front of about 100 witnesses in a restaurant, liked that he called me a druggy hippie slut, when I was married, sober and trying to have a quiet dinner with an old friend/roomate and drinking a soda after a day working in my office job.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
5. Some pretty giant jackasses hold bachelor degrees.... how about require them to score
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 09:02 PM
Jan 2015

high on empathy in a psychological test.

Some of the greatest humanitarians I have ever known never received a degree. That's just silly.

Lancero

(3,011 posts)
6. Eh, I don't think the degree would make much diffrence...
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 09:32 PM
Jan 2015

Since police have a policy of 'not' hiring intelligent people. A policy that the courts have agreed is just fine to use.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/court-police-departments-refuse-hire-smart/

safeinOhio

(32,714 posts)
12. I guess a teacher could be good teachers with out a degree too.
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 10:56 PM
Jan 2015

There are many bad teachers with degrees, so why require it.

Because education is important. It is not the end all answer, but it does help. With a degree, police can be paid more and that can lead to attracting better people into the field.

I also suggested hold them to a higher standard and that is a big part of it and that comes from better pay.

Turbineguy

(37,364 posts)
2. I think the fallout
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 07:50 PM
Jan 2015

from the Bush Economic Miracle pushed unsuitable people into occupations that seem to promise some security.

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MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
8. The problem is, the rest of the cops MUST STOP protecting the bad and incompetent cops.
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 09:44 PM
Jan 2015

If they did that, they'd regain the trust of the public almost immediately.

TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
11. +1000
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 10:53 PM
Jan 2015

Absolutely true! The good cops need to stop protecting the bad cops. You'd think they'd be doing that already, given that the bad cops are giving them ALL a bad name.

TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
9. Amazing. So, these are the qualifications required to be a Cleveland Police Officer these days...
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 10:50 PM
Jan 2015

1. You must be only 2/3rds as smart as THE DUMBEST person the Cuyahoga County Shariff's Department will accept, and

2. You must be considered too incompetent to serve on the police force of a town that has only 7000 people in it.




Got any trash you want to get rid of? Send it to the Cleveland Police Department.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
10. He also
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 10:52 PM
Jan 2015

was given NO reference from his previous department except to say that he had NO business being a cop.

Apparently, he broke down emotionally at a shooting range.

The guy is a screw up on every level.

They hired him anyway.

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