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John Fugelsang: Can W's brother beat Clinton's wife? (Original Post) Playinghardball Jan 2015 OP
Clinton's husband whipped W's daddy gratuitous Jan 2015 #1
By running Clinton, we risk getting a Republican for president. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #2
We guarantee it. QuestionableC Jan 2015 #6
Absolutely. SoapBox Jan 2015 #14
Either way......we all lose. yourout Jan 2015 #3
Amen. 840high Jan 2015 #11
Yeah, no kidding. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2015 #13
Sadly, yes. Dr. Strange Jan 2015 #30
The BFEE goes back at least 100 years if not hundreds more... madinmaryland Jan 2015 #4
Egad, for once you're right! joeybee12 Jan 2015 #15
I am sick and FUCKING tired of the comparisons Bill/Hilary Clinton and the BFEE. madinmaryland Jan 2015 #16
I agree with that.. thanks for pointing it out, madinmaryland. Cha Jan 2015 #20
This is so depressing LittleBlue Jan 2015 #5
Wow! Full circle. Says it all. JDPriestly Jan 2015 #7
Inherited power? Has the 2016 election been cancelled? dumbcat Jan 2015 #8
I can't help wondering if running Jeb! is a ploy to cause people to reject Hillary on the basis of Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2015 #9
Really colsohlibgal Jan 2015 #10
I would rather be bitching about President Hillary Clinton.. armed_and_liberal Jan 2015 #12
Kinda like getting a menu that offers a choice of fried pablum or baked pablum. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #17
They would not have inherited it treestar Jan 2015 #18
yes, do we? because being elected and inheriting it are mutually excluding. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #21
I can get that their relationships treestar Jan 2015 #22
Since power decides who will be selected to be elected in the first place, and since power NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #23
It is pretty great treestar Jan 2015 #24
tell it to the marines. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #25
Sorry, I don't understand that comment. treestar Jan 2015 #27
our system of election = rich people grooming, publicizing and funding wannabees. a slate of NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #28
And the Oligarchy lives on. EOM tiredtoo Jan 2015 #19
ah, yes, 1776 oldandhappy Jan 2015 #26
he sure can . . . and it will not be pretty DrDan Jan 2015 #29

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
14. Absolutely.
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 09:46 PM
Jan 2015

And for those so confident that she could win America over...times have changed. The likes of FuksNews and other Bagger propaganda machines, have already worked hard over at least 10 years to hammer the evils of this Clinton. She has also not done herself any favors with her less than Progressive leanings.

Unfortunately, America will not elect a female President. I am however terrified by the thought of Jebbie and someone like Fiorina as his VP.

Dems need SERIOUS consideration for a candidate that can actually win.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
4. The BFEE goes back at least 100 years if not hundreds more...
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 07:10 PM
Jan 2015

The Clinton "dynasty" dates back to 1992. Try comparing what Bill Clinton's father and grandfather did and the look at what *'s father and grandfather did.

You will see there is no comparison at all.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
16. I am sick and FUCKING tired of the comparisons Bill/Hilary Clinton and the BFEE.
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 09:55 PM
Jan 2015

There is no fucking comparison. Anyone who buys into that is a right wing tool.

BTW, Thanks for your support, El Supremo, err uh joeybee12!!

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
5. This is so depressing
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 07:16 PM
Jan 2015

Our options seem to be relatives of successful politicians. American politics is becoming the musical chairs contests you see in banana republics.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
7. Wow! Full circle. Says it all.
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 07:33 PM
Jan 2015

Hopefully Democrats won't nominate Clinton and we can campaign on not having Bush royalty once again in the White House.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,840 posts)
9. I can't help wondering if running Jeb! is a ploy to cause people to reject Hillary on the basis of
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 08:04 PM
Jan 2015

the dynasty thing.

armed_and_liberal

(246 posts)
12. I would rather be bitching about President Hillary Clinton..
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 09:37 PM
Jan 2015

than bitching about President Jeb Bush. As much as I love true progressives such as Warren and Sanders, The reality is they haven't a snowball's chance in hell of being elected POTUS in the current political climate.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
17. Kinda like getting a menu that offers a choice of fried pablum or baked pablum.
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 10:02 PM
Jan 2015

Fortunately, my menu usually comes with more than 2 choices.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
18. They would not have inherited it
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 10:03 PM
Jan 2015

They have to be elected in their own right. Good grief, do we have to be dishonest in our arguments?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
22. I can get that their relationships
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 01:32 PM
Jan 2015

give them access to the fame that is needed. Still they have to be elected in their own right - it's not that they get it as of right like Prince William.

I guess it's too hard for some to differentiate.

 

NewDeal_Dem

(1,049 posts)
23. Since power decides who will be selected to be elected in the first place, and since power
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 02:11 PM
Jan 2015

funds campaigns, and since if the election goes wrong there's always the electoral college, the difference is not that great.

I guess it's too hard for some to differentiate, however.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
24. It is pretty great
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 02:37 PM
Jan 2015

It's not like there is any choice whatsoever when it comes to true inheritance, like Prince William. He doesn't need money, electoral colleges or anything. That's what inheritance means. You are born to it.

Hillary still has to fight her way through the system and be elected POTUS and the fact Bill once was does not give her any leg up in that. We don't have to elect her or any other Bushes. True inherited power - no election and no choice by the people (which is likely why most monarchies have fallen away).

treestar

(82,383 posts)
27. Sorry, I don't understand that comment.
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 02:50 PM
Jan 2015

Most marines mostly likely understand the difference between a monarchy and a system of election, whatever its faults.

 

NewDeal_Dem

(1,049 posts)
28. our system of election = rich people grooming, publicizing and funding wannabees. a slate of
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 02:56 PM
Jan 2015

wannabees is publicized to the public who may 'vote' for any of the wannabees, all of whom are already in the pockets of wealth.

and if something goes wrong and a wild card carries the popular vote, it can be fixed through the electoral college, which is also safely in the hands of the powerful.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
26. ah, yes, 1776
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 02:50 PM
Jan 2015

We are already a long way from there. Power is one of the evils that came out of Pandora's box and we will struggle with it always. Have been looking at maps and trying to be aware of what is happening in other places. We are not unique.

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