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(82,849 posts)So we'll see.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Just fucking peachy.
QuestionableC
(63 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)And for those so confident that she could win America over...times have changed. The likes of FuksNews and other Bagger propaganda machines, have already worked hard over at least 10 years to hammer the evils of this Clinton. She has also not done herself any favors with her less than Progressive leanings.
Unfortunately, America will not elect a female President. I am however terrified by the thought of Jebbie and someone like Fiorina as his VP.
Dems need SERIOUS consideration for a candidate that can actually win.
yourout
(7,530 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Dr. Strange
(25,921 posts)madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)The Clinton "dynasty" dates back to 1992. Try comparing what Bill Clinton's father and grandfather did and the look at what *'s father and grandfather did.
You will see there is no comparison at all.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)There is no fucking comparison. Anyone who buys into that is a right wing tool.
BTW, Thanks for your support, El Supremo, err uh joeybee12!!
Cha
(297,299 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Our options seem to be relatives of successful politicians. American politics is becoming the musical chairs contests you see in banana republics.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Hopefully Democrats won't nominate Clinton and we can campaign on not having Bush royalty once again in the White House.
dumbcat
(2,120 posts)I didn't get the memo.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,840 posts)the dynasty thing.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)Bush - Clinton -Bush - Clinton - it's getting old.
armed_and_liberal
(246 posts)than bitching about President Jeb Bush. As much as I love true progressives such as Warren and Sanders, The reality is they haven't a snowball's chance in hell of being elected POTUS in the current political climate.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Fortunately, my menu usually comes with more than 2 choices.
treestar
(82,383 posts)They have to be elected in their own right. Good grief, do we have to be dishonest in our arguments?
NewDeal_Dem
(1,049 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)give them access to the fame that is needed. Still they have to be elected in their own right - it's not that they get it as of right like Prince William.
I guess it's too hard for some to differentiate.
NewDeal_Dem
(1,049 posts)funds campaigns, and since if the election goes wrong there's always the electoral college, the difference is not that great.
I guess it's too hard for some to differentiate, however.
treestar
(82,383 posts)It's not like there is any choice whatsoever when it comes to true inheritance, like Prince William. He doesn't need money, electoral colleges or anything. That's what inheritance means. You are born to it.
Hillary still has to fight her way through the system and be elected POTUS and the fact Bill once was does not give her any leg up in that. We don't have to elect her or any other Bushes. True inherited power - no election and no choice by the people (which is likely why most monarchies have fallen away).
NewDeal_Dem
(1,049 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Most marines mostly likely understand the difference between a monarchy and a system of election, whatever its faults.
NewDeal_Dem
(1,049 posts)wannabees is publicized to the public who may 'vote' for any of the wannabees, all of whom are already in the pockets of wealth.
and if something goes wrong and a wild card carries the popular vote, it can be fixed through the electoral college, which is also safely in the hands of the powerful.
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)We are already a long way from there. Power is one of the evils that came out of Pandora's box and we will struggle with it always. Have been looking at maps and trying to be aware of what is happening in other places. We are not unique.