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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 12:47 PM Jan 2015

Fox News’ Stunningly Retrograde New Year’s Advice To Ladies


Is it 2015 or 1815?

Fox News started the new year off with a bang by providing the women of America with some startlingly retrograde advice. The hosts of “Fox And Friends” highlighted a new book, helpfully written by men, that provided “brutally honest” advice to women.

In published excerpts (the book is released in February) the authors provide perspective on relationships. For example, “[s]omeone has to wear the pants and someone has to wear the skirt.” Also, if a man cheats, it’s always his wife or girlfriend’s fault: “A man who cheats is looking for someone to fulfill a part of him that his lady is not, plain and simple.”

The Fox segment, first flagged by Raw Story, highlights that women should “always cater to her man’s needs” including providing foot massages and cooking meals.

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http://thinkprogress.org/culture/2015/01/01/3607426/fox-news-new-years-advice-to-ladies-a-woman-should-always-be-able-to-cater-to-her-mans-needs/
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Fox News’ Stunningly Retrograde New Year’s Advice To Ladies (Original Post) n2doc Jan 2015 OP
As if we need another reason to avoid FOX. nt brer cat Jan 2015 #1
+1 daleanime Jan 2015 #22
Couldn't agree more! jdenver_2624 Jan 2015 #33
They tend to have that Callista Grinch fake smile treestar Jan 2015 #2
Kudos to autocorrect. riqster Jan 2015 #15
Happy New Year - it's 1955! The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2015 #3
Party like it's 999! riqster Jan 2015 #16
... catbyte Jan 2015 #28
What's wrong with foot massages? immoderate Jan 2015 #4
This particular propaganda deliverer of fundie family values is particularily of the Foxette mold. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #6
ya. for some, it is always "just kidding". get me a samwich, right? just kidding. nt seabeyond Jan 2015 #11
And for some others it's not. immoderate Jan 2015 #17
Ewwww, massaging crunchy crusty man feet? underahedgerow Jan 2015 #27
I think you have feet confused with croissants. immoderate Jan 2015 #30
er um a croissant shouldn't ever be crunchy and crusty!!!! Light, fluffy, delicious & underahedgerow Jan 2015 #34
Well, I'm not a pastry expert, so maybe I should have said scones, or something else. immoderate Jan 2015 #37
Ohhhh a foot massage can be fantastic, but I'd rather get one than give one... underahedgerow Jan 2015 #41
I lived in Paris. That's why I was so dependent on Mrs Herbst. immoderate Jan 2015 #42
The Onion? Or Talibani News, hard to tell...Roger Ailes sure loves his second tier propaganda dressed up in Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #5
Christ on a chastity belt. riqster Jan 2015 #7
Fuck these people shenmue Jan 2015 #8
hence, a section of male demographics on the why they create their hate groups. rape, beat and seabeyond Jan 2015 #9
I'm glad I never married. Brigid Jan 2015 #10
I am glad I did. riqster Jan 2015 #13
Honestly... trumad Jan 2015 #12
Stepford on steroids. Creeped me out, too. riqster Jan 2015 #14
She could scare yuiyoshida Jan 2015 #18
hey.... seabeyond Jan 2015 #19
you to Sea trumad Jan 2015 #20
oh, noes. lol seabeyond Jan 2015 #21
Is that how she actually looks? deutsey Jan 2015 #36
My daughter is dating for the first time exboyfil Jan 2015 #23
Just because he is a "strong Christian" dosen't always mean he expects women to be submissive Freddie Jan 2015 #25
this is as bad as their other romance advice, which they stole from a site of pranks for kids MisterP Jan 2015 #24
That is one hella scary picture. L0oniX Jan 2015 #26
The fragile male ego must be stroked... bhikkhu Jan 2015 #29
I heard all that crap about "men have fragile egos so don't do better than them" Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2015 #31
a first thought. women cheat almost as much as men. men do it because it is biological, seabeyond Jan 2015 #32
Yep, that's what I was asking. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2015 #35
Happy new year! It's 846 BC! Initech Jan 2015 #38
Oh, good lord... Blue_In_AK Jan 2015 #39
Equality in a relationships is the way relationships are supposed to work. Dont call me Shirley Jan 2015 #40
There's something wrong with that photo Trillo Jan 2015 #43
Stepford Wife. SomethingFishy Jan 2015 #45
What bullshit! smirkymonkey Jan 2015 #44
 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
30. I think you have feet confused with croissants.
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 04:00 PM
Jan 2015

Remember, if your nose runs, and your feet smell, you are upside down.

--imm

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
34. er um a croissant shouldn't ever be crunchy and crusty!!!! Light, fluffy, delicious &
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 04:41 PM
Jan 2015

crispy & flaky with thousands of buttery layers, hello? (ok 72, but who's counting?)

But I like the last bit

Men feets gross me out. It's a peeve.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
37. Well, I'm not a pastry expert, so maybe I should have said scones, or something else.
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 05:02 PM
Jan 2015

In any case, without being obsessive about it, few things feel as good as a timely foot massage.

And it's possible for men (and women) to have feet that don't express some pathology. Is it possible your reaction to men's feet is more about sexual preferences than body part preferences?

Haven't had a decent croissant since Mrs. Herbst closed.

--imm

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
41. Ohhhh a foot massage can be fantastic, but I'd rather get one than give one...
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 11:37 AM
Jan 2015

I like those tough Thai girls in the mani-pedi salons. They're brutal but wonderful.

I feel bad when the crunchy crusty feets people visit them though. Something about unkempt feet, regardless of men's or women's just grosses me out!! I think it's a phobia thing maybe... It's a PEEVE, okay? I can't explain it!!!

But now, a baguette must be properly crispy and the ends very crunchy.. My daughter just moved back to Los Angeles after being in Paris for several years. She is seriously missing proper croissants, but totally digging real donuts. I would commit a crime for a proper jelly donut. *sigh*

What on earth was this thread about originally? How did it go from toes to donuts? I'm so confused.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
42. I lived in Paris. That's why I was so dependent on Mrs Herbst.
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 11:44 AM
Jan 2015

That bakery, in Germantown, in Manhattan, made absolutely undifferentiable from Paris croissants.

--imm

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
5. The Onion? Or Talibani News, hard to tell...Roger Ailes sure loves his second tier propaganda dressed up in
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 12:58 PM
Jan 2015

short skirts does he not?

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
9. hence, a section of male demographics on the why they create their hate groups. rape, beat and
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 01:02 PM
Jan 2015

murder women.

cause it is their right. and that always proceeds any other right, like not to be raped, beaten and murdered.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
13. I am glad I did.
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 01:10 PM
Jan 2015

Married to a liberal feminist. We cook for each other, give each other foot rubs, etc. Partnership is awesome.

What those literary skidmarks are peddling is counter-emancipation. To hell with that.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
18. She could scare
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 01:13 PM
Jan 2015

Hannibal Lecter. In the made for TV movie, "V" it featured Diana who could unhinge her jaw like a snake and wolf down a guinea pig (Showing the Aliens true Reptilian form.) This woman could probably play that part.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
21. oh, noes. lol
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 01:36 PM
Jan 2015

i had mine a week before christmas, lol. did the holidays sober. or mostly.

i have had about three of those hangovers in a lifetime. hopefully, that is my last, seeing how another 15 yrs would put me at old.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
23. My daughter is dating for the first time
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 01:50 PM
Jan 2015

She met a boy two years older as a freshman in college. They are both in mechanical engineering, and they have several classes together (my daughter is about two years ahead). He seems like a great person (never has gotten angry in front of her, hard working, fun to hang out with, a great study partner, very respectful, family very kind to my daughter). So what is not to like? Well he is a strong Christian (for example their first social outing was to a church activity). He has reacted well to my daughter doing better than him in school, but I am nervous about if their relationship leading to marriage, that he will expect her career to be subjugated to the demands of his career.

A little background. My wife always wanted to be a stay at home mom (she is still home even after my youngest is a junior in high school). I would prefer to have her work and carry some of the financial load. I want my daughters to never be dependent on someone else. My youngest is also two years ahead and looking at getting her B.S. nursing degree within two years of graduating high school. We have fun together, but my primary interaction is school based (done some homeschooling and significant support for online classes).

I just hope this young man does not think like these folks. I don't know his politics, but I suspect they tend towards Fox News.

Freddie

(9,267 posts)
25. Just because he is a "strong Christian" dosen't always mean he expects women to be submissive
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 03:35 PM
Jan 2015

Maybe he's a Lutheran or Episcopalian or one of the other Christian denominations that don't have female inferiority as part of their theology.
My son-in-law was born/raised Southern Baptist, but my daughter made sure that if he wanted her, none of that man-is-head of household garbage. (He's not inclined that way anyway). The best way for your daughter to tell if these inclinations are there is to observe his parents' relationship. That was hard for my daughter to do as his parents were unhappily married for many years and split up right after their son's wedding.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
24. this is as bad as their other romance advice, which they stole from a site of pranks for kids
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 02:30 PM
Jan 2015
http://www.cracked.com/blog/10-baffling-romance-tips-from-sociopaths-at-fox-news/ (NSFW but hilarious language)

it includes stuffing his shoes with newspaper, replacing soda with dyed water, put a fake camera in the bathroom and pretend to watch him on the can, and shoving a gummi worm into his apples

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
29. The fragile male ego must be stroked...
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 03:56 PM
Jan 2015

culturally, there has always been a willingness to allow a boy, "mommy's little prince", to remain a boy; physically larger as an adult, but undeveloped.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
31. I heard all that crap about "men have fragile egos so don't do better than them"
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 04:07 PM
Jan 2015

when I was a kid. Things like "don't act smarter than they are, they will get mad". I heard this shit from my mother and grandmother, not from my dad. Since I was reading when I was three years old and always loved school and college, I thought "Why would I want to hide the real me from some guy just to get his approval? I don't."

I refuse to wait on anybody. So many of these right-wing men are so helpless that they can't even fix themselves a sandwich to feed themselves. They tend to get mail-order brides because American women are too uppity and independent. They don't want a partner. They want a servant.

Equal relationships are better. My husband and I DISCUSS things first before we make a decision. Many people cannot comprehend an equal relationship. They think the man has to tell the woman what to do. Because it says so in their bible.

So if the man cheats, then what does that say about the woman he cheats with, because it takes two? Is the woman missing something that the man she's with is lacking? They never said anything about that.

I had people tell me when I was in an emotionally abusive marriage that if he didn't cheat on me, didn't drink, didn't have a drug problem, and had a steady job then it must be okay. When actually it was hell due to the emotional and physical abandonment and emotional put-downs and abuse. He thought marriage was living in the same house with a woman and very occasionally sleeping with the landlady. That's not a marriage. Nearly killed me, literally.






 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
32. a first thought. women cheat almost as much as men. men do it because it is biological,
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 04:34 PM
Jan 2015

or in this one, womans fault. so women cheat why?

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
35. Yep, that's what I was asking.
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 04:42 PM
Jan 2015

More of that old double standard crap. Women are always pure and virtuous. But as I said, it takes two.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
44. What bullshit!
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 04:48 PM
Jan 2015

I would much rather be single forever than have to put up with that crap just to get/keep a man.

Who needs it?

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