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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 08:27 AM Jan 2015

Fed Up: Florida Crowd Forms Human Shield to Protect Man Police Try to Arrest for Smoking Marijuana

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/fed-florida-crowd-forms-human-shield-protect-man-police-try-arrest-smoking



In addition to the mass protests nationwide against police brutality, incidents where ordinary citizens speak up, start recording and attempt to intervene when they see excessive and abusive cop behavior are being reported more frequently.

Earlier this month in New York City, a woman angrily denounced police who were beating an already restrained teenage boy as others made sure to film the incident to hold the plainclothes officer accountable. It is possible that the assembled and outraged crowd prevented further abuse, and with the help of the cellphone video, the cop faced at least some discipline from the department.

This past weekend in Delray Beach, Florida, dozens of people quickly organized to stop what they believed to be a petty and unnecessary arrest.

That night, Delray Police entered a neighborhood after seeing a man walking down the street smoking. The officers thought the smoke smelled like marijuana, so they decided to pursue the man. When the man entered a home nearby, the police followed and tried to apprehend him. They were surprised when about 20 people came out of the home and surrounded the man to prevent the arrest from taking place.
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Fed Up: Florida Crowd Forms Human Shield to Protect Man Police Try to Arrest for Smoking Marijuana (Original Post) xchrom Jan 2015 OP
a sizable number of police members have left me with declining respect for the profession as a whole samsingh Jan 2015 #1
Something does not square... Helen Borg Jan 2015 #2
They never protect people nichomachus Jan 2015 #22
Looks like we need local 'neighborhood watch' groups Chemisse Jan 2015 #3
I've been thinking along these lines myself. Scruffy Rumbler Jan 2015 #12
And they should be geared with cameras, ready to record. Chemisse Jan 2015 #13
The most essential of equipment! nt Scruffy Rumbler Jan 2015 #15
The people seem to be way ahead of the the conflicted politicians. Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #4
Police Thespian2 Jan 2015 #5
Police are mostly robots following rules. Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #6
And those "Rules" are Lobbied fredamae Jan 2015 #7
Some laws are so unjust. Cops need to learn to turn their heads! B Calm Jan 2015 #8
So the Police SHOULDN'T have arrested a law-breaker? brooklynite Jan 2015 #9
"The officers thought the smoke smelled.." they don't trust their local LEOs so "opinion crimes".. uponit7771 Jan 2015 #10
Object like how? Not like it, give the smoker a "hey buddy!", openly complain and invite peer TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #11
Oh horrors! Chemisse Jan 2015 #14
Then it should be easy enough to rescind the law... brooklynite Jan 2015 #17
Rescinding or downgrading marijuana laws is a work in progress. Chemisse Jan 2015 #19
Open carry perhaps? brooklynite Jan 2015 #20
Does it affect others? Chemisse Jan 2015 #21
And sometimes when bad laws are passed by politicians which have or will ruin untold numbers of sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #18
K/R marmar Jan 2015 #16

samsingh

(17,599 posts)
1. a sizable number of police members have left me with declining respect for the profession as a whole
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 09:13 AM
Jan 2015

and I used to really admire police officers.

it seems that being thugs and lawlessness is the motif for some members of the police departments around the country.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
2. Something does not square...
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 09:46 AM
Jan 2015

In NYC, cops are not doing their job, but they don't seem to have the courage to call it a strike, and still want to be paid not to do their job. The argument is that they are afraid for their own safety, right? That is why they are not protecting people in NYC? I thought that is why cops want to be called heroes... Because they have a relatively dangerous job for the purpose of protecting people. Cannot have it both ways!

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
22. They never protect people
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 02:56 PM
Jan 2015

What they're doing now is not harassing people. Most of these citations and low-level arrests are just bogus charges to fill the city coffers.

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
3. Looks like we need local 'neighborhood watch' groups
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 09:59 AM
Jan 2015

to protect people from 'aggressive' police.

What a sad commentary on law enforcement in this country.

Scruffy Rumbler

(961 posts)
12. I've been thinking along these lines myself.
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 11:31 AM
Jan 2015

Some type of smart phone app that allows for large numbers of people in an area to be contacted and they can converge on either the cops or their victim. Enough numbers to draw attention and record as in the NYC event or in large enough numbers to be human shields.

Strength in numbers!

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
4. The people seem to be way ahead of the the conflicted politicians.
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 10:12 AM
Jan 2015

Thanks for this and many other awesome articles xchrom. You're one of my favorites.






Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
5. Police
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 10:17 AM
Jan 2015

are entrenched in their own bubble, predominately concerned with enforcing their powers to control the public, not protect it. Apparently, police unions are run by thugs who believe the first line of defence is excessive force, including outright murder. Routing the thugs from the various police units will be difficult, if not impossible. Their primary function is to protect the wealthy.

A good first move by the federal government is to abolish the DEA and completely defund the "war on drugs." Step two would be to follow the example of Portugal's attitude toward drugs.

Good for the people from Delray Beach who stopped the local gestapo.

Thanks, xchrom, for this post.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
7. And those "Rules" are Lobbied
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 10:53 AM
Jan 2015

by the Police Unions/Heads of agencies and it IS "our" elected officials who, at the Request of LE established the laws, rules and policies We try to Survive everyday.
Why aren't we discussing the Root Cause and solutions. It is Congress and state legislators who have brought us to "today".
The "buck stops" at every POTUS's Desk and Every Governors Desk who Signed said bills into law. Period. In So many of these instances "The People" said NO.
Patriot Act. FISA. NSA and many etcs are just a part of the problem. Awarded Power is Never relinquished easily and quietly.

brooklynite

(94,592 posts)
9. So the Police SHOULDN'T have arrested a law-breaker?
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 11:15 AM
Jan 2015

Smoking marijuana may be petty and shouldn't be illegal, but the law the Police were enforcing was passed by the State Legislature elected by the public. Add to that the suspect was observed smoking in public. I trust therefore, that nobody will object to the next person smoking a cigarette in their presence.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
10. "The officers thought the smoke smelled.." they don't trust their local LEOs so "opinion crimes"..
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 11:18 AM
Jan 2015

... don't work here.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
11. Object like how? Not like it, give the smoker a "hey buddy!", openly complain and invite peer
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 11:28 AM
Jan 2015

pressure, or does object mean call the cops?

If it is the last option then of course not and who would?

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
14. Oh horrors!
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 12:48 PM
Jan 2015

He might have been smoking a marijuana cigarette!!

Seriously, nobody cares. Except for cops who want a little action.

brooklynite

(94,592 posts)
17. Then it should be easy enough to rescind the law...
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 12:54 PM
Jan 2015

Unless you also propose to grant conservatives the right to ignore laws they don't like.

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
19. Rescinding or downgrading marijuana laws is a work in progress.
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 01:27 PM
Jan 2015

As far as Republicans go, if there is a law they don't like, and a violation of it affects nobody else but themselves, and they are adults, then I say, fine, they can ignore the law.

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
21. Does it affect others?
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 02:05 PM
Jan 2015

I didn't say 'harm' others in my post; I said 'affect'.

Whether open carry affects others in a negative way could certainly be debated.

Seeing someone walking around in the community, in city buildings, in schools, can be quite chilling and even alarming because of the potential for quick and devastating harm.

Most (all?) of what Republicans want to do that does not necessarily comply with current law has the potential for a negative effect on others. But if there is something that doesn't, then I support them violating the law.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
18. And sometimes when bad laws are passed by politicians which have or will ruin untold numbers of
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 01:01 PM
Jan 2015

lives, when the politicians are no longer representative of the people, the people have a right to do something about it themselves.

It's not as if the people haven't told them for decades now what they want, but they are not listening.

So, what do you suggest people ought to do when their government has become deaf to their voices, listening to Corporate shills from the Prison/Law enforcement Industry, ignoring the harm these laws are doing to the people?

Don't say 'vote'. Because the people HAVE done that.

The other alternative is for them to sit on juries and use the tool provided for them by the FFS, jury nullification and/or simply do what those people did if all else fails.

Watching citizens being beaten up by cops and being asked to do nothing about it? Why? Cops are breaking the law when they abuse people, so why would ANYONE give them permission to do that?

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