How about a forum for Name Removed posts called "The Sewer"?

[kwassa]

It doesn't have to be called "The Sewer", though that would be an accurate description of the content.

Posts that get posters banned can be sent there, for viewing purposes only.

Personally, I am always curious what gets people banned, and what action I have missed. Recently I've had several Name Removed posts aimed at me, and I want to know what they were!

I am one who likes to see hidden posts, and I am allowed to do that here already.

By putting them in a separate forum, only those that truly want to see them would go there to do so, and nobody else would be required to see them. By not allowing replies moderators and juries wouldn't be second-guessed, and it wouldn't turn into Meta.

What do you think? Any one else interested in seeing the Name Removed posts, or does this seem like a bad idea?

[Quackers]

1. Lol

Macrumors forum has this exact thing. It's called the wasteland.

http://forums.macrumors.com/forumdisplay.php?f=41

[arely staircase]

2. yeah. reading deleted posts is one of the best parts of star membership

I feel cheated when the name removed thing deletes the crazy before I can read it.

Good idea.

[Archae]

3. I already call Faux "news" The Sewer.

And "Fox and Friends" the Bottom Of The Sewer.

[Starry Messenger]

4. Isn't that The Discussionist?

[kwassa]

11. well, not exactly .... this would be one forum here ....

enter at your own risk.

Not the whole damn place!

[cyberswede]

22. LOL

My exact thought.

[Scootaloo]

5. Just read General Discussion, most of them keep coming back for more

I often read the MIR forum and wonder what in the name of god propels these people to come, day after day aftr day, time and time again, multiple times in the same day even. And it makes me sad.

[kwassa]

16. They are usually gone before I ever see them.

It makes me feel like I am missing all the fun.

[BumRushDaShow]

6. I remember when they used to leave them but would

add the avatar to the poster.

[nc4bo]

7. Those were my absolute favorite!! There'd also be a ton of Tombstone jokes.

[Archae]

9. Pizza time!

[laserhaas]

33. This is a way cool concept

And I'm always curious as to the context that was bojo,d

[shenmue]

8. Neat

We also need the hate mail to come back.

[pipi_k]

41. For sure!

I used to love reading the hate mail

[L0oniX]

10. Wall of Shame.

[bravenak]

12. I would like that too.

I'm always curious what the heck they were going on about. I know what the ones talking to me were saying. But I'm curious about the rest.

[NBachers]

13. I usually stumble in way after it's all over. All that's left is cryptic replies to . . . what???

I'd like to ridicule the stupidity and gloat at the failure. Let's have "The Sewer."

[Jamastiene]

27. Yeah, I've had a couple directed at me too.

Name Removed is such a jerk. I want to at least see what they said after they get their post hidden/removed. I think it is a good idea to put them a special area like that too.

[C Moon]

14. me too!

[longship]

15. The reason why it isn't done is because some smilies would get overworked.

Mainly , , , , , and many others. The admins don't want them overworked.

There would be far less entertainment here. But there would be far more intelligence here.

Now if we could only tone down the DU bullies.

Happy New Year to all of you.

[kwassa]

17. I am very concerned about overworked smilies, especially considering their pay scale.

I think they need proper union representation.

United Emoticons of America, also known as U A.

[longship]

19. Indeed! Let's do it! nt

[Marie Marie]

18. Unionize the smilies - then they could get overtime pay.

[Tsiyu]

20. oh HELL no

Are you serious?

If you want to read the drivel that passes for conservative "insight" these days, go out there and read youtube comments or join freerepublic.

if some wingnut gets a post removed responding to me, I couldn't give two fucks to read the same shit 1500 other conservative trolls have posted somewhere else in that last half second.

You open up this place to more trolls who will do ANYTHING to be a part of this site - as much as they claim to hate it.

You see, they think they are 'SKOOLING' us, and that somehow if they keep at it, we will see the light of their glorious ignorance.

A place like you describe would just encourage them even more.

I come here for a BREAK from that SHIT. I don't want it here - ANYWHERE.

Like I said, if you really are jonesing for teabagging, rightie tightie inanity, go out there and find it....EVERYWHERE BUT HERE.

All caps, my own.

And Happy Fucking New Year, and Get Off My Lawn!

[pipi_k]

42. You have a point there

I believe also that it would encourage the nastier ones to keep coming back just to get their shit memorialized.

Some of them would no doubt feel it was a badge or honor or something.

[Tsiyu]

43. Exactimente

It will become a challenge, like making the hall of fame for wingnuts.

[Nye Bevan]

21. If that stuff stayed visible anywhere on DU, it would only encourage them (nt)

[SunSeeker]

23. No way.

Seeing that shit would really stink up this joint. Plus it would pop up in searches and lead even more nut bags here.

[Behind the Aegis]

24. I have mixed feelings.

Personally, META should be brought back, but that is kind of a side point, because there would be need for a place to discuss those hidden posts. I hate to burst your bubble, but the vast majority of "deleted posts" from "name removed" are innocuous and not controversial nor interesting at all. For those who do not know, if a poster has under 10 posts and s/he is banned, all posts are deleted and the moniker becomes "name removed." If the person is under 100 posts, then all posts in the past 24 hours fall into the "name removed" and deleted posts. Sometimes, posters are banned, not because of a post, per se, but because the admins or MIRT recognize a troll (disruptor), zombie (someone who has already been banned before), or spammer (self explanatory). So, in reality, most posts you (in general), are missing are usually boring "+1", "yup!, I agree!", and "Thanks for the information." type of posts.

I am ambivalent because there are some posts, which, while I still agree with transparency in hidden posts, really are nasty, vile, completely devoid of redeeming value, and should not be viewed because all it does is hurt good members. It is true many of us let things roll off our backs and we are adults, but sometimes, seeing some of the nasty, hate-filled remarks, even if only from trolls, is still painful and, I see no reason to inflict that pain on others here. It is walking the fine edge of a sword. There have been remarks which upset members of MIRT greatly just having to read them! Imagine the impact on the entire membership.

So, in conclusion, most...seriously...most of the 'deleted posts' aren't anything special at all, in actuality, they are quite dull. Sure, every now and again, there are some humdingers, but this is really, well, not uncommon, but not really common either.

[Warren DeMontague]

28. Seriously. Anyone who has been on MIRT knows, you'd have to wade through a lot of inane gibberish

even to find the egregiously offensive, albeit perhaps interesting, shit.

[kwassa]

29. thanks for the inside view from MIRT.

When you can't see something, the imagination wants to make it very interesting.

[WhiteAndNerdy]

25. Nah.

Trolls love seeing their own words on the screen. It hurts them more to have their material deleted altogether (and saves bandwidth).

[Jamastiene]

26. Wasn't that what Meta kind of was anyhow?

I miss Meta. We could go at each other, those of us who are on opposite sides of some issues. It was a round and round thing that never went anywhere, but still, it at least let some of us say what we really wanted to say to each other without worrying so much about hides.

[stevenleser]

30. I like it. The problem is that the idiots who troll DU will get a thrill from knowing their "work"

can be seen.

[yuiyoshida]

31. I have also had several "Name Removed" posts of late..

I can just imagine what they are saying about me. One I actually got to see, before it was removed, and it was disgusting. I also look at hidden posts, but having a whole place for them may just encourage haters to want to post more.

As it is,this Year, the Republicans take over the House and Senate. I think that may encourage the trolls to come out, saying..."See? We are a majority, and you are not.."

Not sure how I would feel about a HATERS club that some might aspire to end up in, like a Hall of Fame.

[Jesus Malverde]

32. Problem is the majority of those, are garden variety spammers promoting commercial websites..

The dramatic posts that get PPRed and used for straw man OP's are the rare exception.

a mighty hispanic dude

Jesus

[BlueJazz]

34. I've always wished the jury system had different punishments. Like real life.

1. You could buy the jury. Maybe a few bucks to each juror.
2. In lieu of punishment, you would have to crawl on your belly and beg the people you offended. They would then hurl insults at you, telling you what a disgusting piece of human garbage you were/are.
3. Equip the members of DU with an embedded chip. If you get too nasty, Skinner shocks the shit out of you.
(Changes your attitude and perhaps, brightens Mr. Skinner's day)

[kwassa]

35. well, maybe it could be more like a grand jury .... secret non-prosecution!

[treestar]

36. Yes, I often wonder what the freezer troll had to say

[Gormy Cuss]

37. I'd rather accumulate the hidden posts of active members in a "Not Community Standards" forum

That way, what is and what isn't a community standard here. For example, posting thinly veiled racist and sexist bullshit is within the standards of the community as a difference of opinion, but calling someone a racist or a sexist isn't because the latter is a "personal attack." I find this confusing.

[kwassa]

38. I think these community standards are highly variable ....

depending on whatever jury happened to be summoned. And, how seriously they take their role, which if often not seriously at all.

[Gormy Cuss]

39. Ah, but community standards by definition aren't highly variable

thus why I'm confused.

[kwassa]

40. Variable in application, then.

[pintobean]

44. Then, why bother deleting them?

The idea is that we don't want them, or their posts, here.

Your idea seems like a disruptors' reward zone.

I don't need to see their shit. Erasing them is the best answer.

[kwassa]

45. They could be stripped of name or i.d.

and not get the satisfaction of proving to others it was them.