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By Mikhail Klikushin | 12/29/14 1:17pm
If you talk to a Russian about the international political situation, sooner or later you will be informed that there is a country in North America that you never heard of. Its name is Pindosia, Pindostan or, more officially, United States of Pindostan, and you will be told that one part of it, called Alaska , used to belong to Russia . Part of the word stan stands for underdeveloped state, as in Pakistan , Kazakhstan or Uzbekistan. The citizens of this country in plural form are called pindoses, in singular pindos.
There are more than 316 million pindoses in Pindostan.
Today, this country has a black President, and the Russians have a nickname for him too. He is called Maximka after a character from a popular Soviet movie, made in 1952, which told the story of a black boy saved by the Russian sailors from the cruelty of the vicious American slave-traders who were terribly abusing him and calling him just thatBoy. In the film, the saved boy was fed well by the Russian crew, given the name Maximka, and became one of their own in the end.
But by the modern-day Russian legend, Maximka, unfortunately, has grown up into an ungrateful Russophobe.
One can assume that the reader by now has a clue what this country is.
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NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Welcome to the club.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)who coined "freedom fries."
Russia is reverting back to its historical norm.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)That's not a new phenomenon.
And for the russian call to investigate the nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki... The russian politicians are a spineless, opportunistic bunch who will bend over backwards to kiss Putin's ass and are famous for spouting over-the-top patriotic nonsense. For example: One (female) russian politician suggested that from now on all russian women should be artificially inseminated with Putin's sperm.
http://www.bustle.com/articles/48175-lets-inseminate-all-russian-women-with-putins-sperm-says-wacky-lawmaker
FSogol
(45,515 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)FSogol
(45,515 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)uhnope
(6,419 posts)Igel
(35,337 posts)The "pind-" root's been attested in Russian for years. The early uses are applied to all sorts of groups for a while, including Russian gays.
Still is. Root's most likely a reference to "pindaros," a derogatory use of the word "Greek" to describe UN Greek peacekeepers in Yugoslavia. "Pindo-" (which sounds a bit like pizdo- the combining form for 'cunt') winds up in all kinds of combinations. But if you look in slang dictionaries from the '80s and '90s, it's just not there. And the oldest things I've seen using it all put the words in the mouths of soldiers, low ranking, who served abroad.
Now it's everywhere. Hard to read a "macho" novel without running into it. Youtube's littered with it, and it's always described as "netzenzurnyi," "foul language".
Last thing I read like that used it for a bit for Americans, but also for a variety of monsters (it was sci-fi/fantasy) and enemy Russians. What you need to do is find the kind of "literature" that allows gutter language to be used, where you get sentences that make perfect sense until you try to translate them into English because every word has the root "fuck" (or "cunt" or "dick", or a euphemism for same) and all the grammatical bits + context make up the whole of the meaning.
The other option is to keep the original root and tack "-os" to the end. "Amerikosy" is more common, in my experience, in contexts where you need to make sure that you're understood to be referring to Americans in an offensive way. "Amerifags." It's also a bit less offensive. You get that kind of thing even in less rude novels, some of which are sort of "artsy."
Note that I haven't read anything like that written in 2014, there's a time lag in how current I am with what's printed, imported, and sold. All this "recent" rage is against Americans before Ukraine, back when Obama was trying to be nice and cooperative and not confrontational. Words like "Obez'yama", "Obamacaque," have been around for a long time.
What's happened is that now there's a reason for blaming the US and Obama for the rage that can be said out loud in sources that we're willing to read. The rage now has a cause we find acceptable and can be named and discussed. Of course, we still don't like the idea of "Obamacaque" and a light show with the Obamacaque fellating a banana, it's a bit too personal (and we think the NYPD is bad.)
The rage is probably greater now than in 2011 and 2012, but the contempt for Americans and various other groups (pretty much any group that isn't really pro-Russian) in some Russian subpopulations is of long standing. It predates Bush II--we're talking visceral hatred of Clinton and Bush I. Still, we are now in a place where we can listen to somebody blame us and we can nod our heads and say, "Yes, they should hate us--well, not us, but I can see how they could make that mistake. It's really those other Amerikosy that we hate."