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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAlfie Kohn's very angry rant about ed reform. Says Obama has intensified what Bush began.
I think I will sit back, have some coffee, and watch this very real truth disappear down the rabbit hole or wherever.
Hat tip to educator Steven Singer on Twitter
A: What is the purpose of education?
B: To raise test scores.
A: Why?
B: To raise corporate profits.
Listen closely to his words about STEM and why it is crowding out subjects like literature and history.
Who in the world is Alfie Kohn?
Kohn has been described in Time magazine as "perhaps the country's most outspoken critic of education's fixation on grades [and] test scores." His criticisms of competition and rewards have helped to shape the thinking of educators -- as well as parents and managers -- across the country and abroad. Kohn has been featured on hundreds of TV and radio programs, including the "Today" show and two appearances on "Oprah"; he has been profiled in the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times, while his work has been described and debated in many other leading publications.
Kohn lectures widely at universities and to school faculties, parent groups, and corporations. In addition to speaking at staff development seminars and keynoting national education conferences on a regular basis, he conducts workshops for teachers and administrators on various topics. Among them: "Motivation from the Inside Out: Rethinking Rewards, Assessment, and Learning" and "Beyond Bribes and Threats: Realistic Alternatives to Controlling Students' Behavior." The latter corresponds to his book BEYOND DISCIPLINE: From Compliance to Community (ASCD, 1996), which he describes as "a modest attempt to overthrow the entire field of classroom management."
Kohn's various books have been translated into Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Spanish, German, Italian, Swedish, Dutch, Polish, Romanian, Bulgarian, Portuguese, Arabic, Hebrew, Thai, and Malaysian. He has also contributed to publications ranging from the Journal of Education to Ladies Home Journal, and from the Nation to the Harvard Business Review ("Why Incentive Plans Cannot Work" . His efforts to make research in human behavior accessible to a general audience have also been published in the Atlantic Monthly, Parents, and Psychology Today.
His many articles on education include a dozen widely reprinted essays in Phi Delta Kappan from 1991 to 2008. Among them: "Choices for Children: Why and How to Let Students Decide," "How Not to Teach Values: A Critical Look at Character Education," "Test Today, Privatize Tomorrow," and "Why Self-Discipline is Overrated."
Crossposted at my Twitter link
roody
(10,849 posts)rock
(13,218 posts)Does NOT raise your intelligence significantly nor make you less ignorant. Both are exactly what the politicians want. I should point out while I'm on the subject that managers will be pleased too as they want 'potatoes' (i.e. non-distinguishable commodities) for workers. Why would a minimum wage worker offer anything more than that?
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Test taking can be traumatic.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Not really funny, but I used to have dreams about the FCAT writing test.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Test Today, Privatize Tomorrow
FREEDOM FROM PUBLIC EDUCATION
I try to imagine myself as a privatizer. How would I proceed? If my objective were to dismantle public schools, I would begin by trying to discredit them. I would probably refer to them as government schools, hoping to tap into a vein of libertarian resentment. I would never miss an opportunity to sneer at researchers and teacher educators as out-of-touch educationists. Recognizing that its politically unwise to attack teachers, I would do so obliquely, bashing the unions to which most of them belong. Most important, if I had the power, I would ratchet up the number and difficulty of standardized tests that students had to take, in order that I could then point to the predictably pitiful results. I would then defy my opponents to defend the schools that had produced students who did so poorly.
Do you see that?
1. Discredit public schools.
2. Call them "government" schools.
3. Sneer at teachers and call them out of touch.
4. Ratchet up number of tests and keep making them harder.
5. Point to the ones who do poorly.
6. Ignore the ones who did well.
hay rick
(7,626 posts)Then nobody would have to flip burgers or collect the trash.
The emphasis on STEM education is a substitute for discussing the declining availability of decent-paying middle class jobs in our economy. A "good" education (vocational preparation for a high-paying job) changes individual outcomes but does nothing to change the continuing decline of median wages in our society as a whole.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)to the point where it's the new English degree (with a minor in Movement): the notion is being pushed by the same people demanding more visas and even bringing white slaving back to SF
"STEM education" is also a great cover for slashing art, music, and humanities programs (and there's some ideologues saying we shouldn't teach history until we get to the biochem (and that they be in charge of the history to boot))
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Just like the cries about failing schools....started strongly when Reagan's Nation at Risk was published. We teachers looked at each other and wondered what they meant by failing schools. Heck our schools were doing great. But propaganda repeated over and over with no one defending it.....works quite well.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)a generation" sparked by the '57 panic and Loren Eiseley called it the "Invisible Pyramid", saying space/STEM was absolutely important but not the *only* thing and not go all deMille building it: now this was when the US was still in a boom and Fordist (if you were white enough, though LBJ was expanding that)
but even after Rachel Carson and the failure of industry and science to win Vietnam and even the financialization of every damn thing under the sun and the reinforcement of school districts (Compton pays for its own schools, Bel Air for its), art and music were still permitted in schools and programs--but they're always the first to go, and each "STEM panic" twists the tourniquet a little. bit. tighter. each. time. (some have even said "we have science: who needs history or philosophy?"
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)At least per capita.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)violinist, STEM is really just a way to LOWER his or her self-esteem.
It's ridiculous. We should encourage children who are talented and capable of becoming engineers and mathematicians to go that route. But measuring children with standardized tests throughout their schoolyears is a waste. It is in many cases counterproductive. Just minimizes the value of other talents.
And a lot of the intellectual skills that STEM education focuses on are likely to become less important as computers and electronic gadgets do more and more of the tasks those skills are required to do.
My father was great with a slide rule. People don't need them that much any more. Computers have replaced the slide rule. Computers do the work the slide rules used to do -- but much better and much faster.
And spell-check? We all use that (although I still make a ton of mistakes when I write).
Octafish
(55,745 posts)The Arts.
http://stemtosteam.org/
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Interesting. I can't imagine schools without language arts and art and music.
ellenrr
(3,864 posts)or as I call it,
education deform by predatory vultures:
http://dianeravitch.net/
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Very apt description.
ellenrr
(3,864 posts)but you probably figured that out.
kiva
(4,373 posts)The emphasis on STEM is maddening - if students can't read the damn books, articles, and blogs, what good are they? If students have no idea of the context of these facts, how useful are they? And if students have no sense of morality - defined by me as public good - then what use are they to society?
FloriTexan
(838 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Much appreciated.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)theaocp
(4,241 posts)All about the benjamins.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)that it's unlikely they will ever be put in practice. Such as, he does not believe schools should give homework, issue grades, or have any kind of competition including sports.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)I think many of his stances could be more moderated.
Trouble is people who are having more impact today are to other extreme....way way to the other direction.
His stances at least are not dangerous to true learning. The ones imposing their beliefs now truly are harmful.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)But I think what Kohn does do is at least push things a little closer to his side even though I think he fully realizes his vision will never be seen. He makes people think and question their practices.
kiva
(4,373 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)And a big to you.
And a as well.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Back in the saddle.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)About damn time.
tblue37
(65,414 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)JEB
(4,748 posts)Thanks for keeping us informed on this vital subject.