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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMaybe a few people here should read this. The Geneva Conventions
cover civilians around a war and soldiers. This part with references is in Wikipedia then they can read what's in the constitution.
The Geneva Conventions comprise four treaties, and three additional protocols, that establish the standards of international law for the humanitarian treatment of war. The singular term Geneva Convention usually denotes the agreements of 1949, negotiated in the aftermath of the Second World War (193945), which updated the terms of the first three treaties (1864, 1906, 1929), and added a fourth treaty. The Geneva Conventions extensively defined the basic, wartime rights of prisoners (civil and military); established protections for the wounded; and established protections for the civilians in and around a war-zone. The treaties of 1949 were ratified, in whole or with reservations, by 196 countries.[1] Moreover, the Geneva Convention also defines the rights and protections afforded to non-combatants, yet, because the Geneva Conventions are about people in war, the articles do not address warfare proper the use of weapons of war which is the subject of the Hague Conventions (First Hague Conference, 1899; Second Hague Conference 1907), and the bio-chemical warfare Geneva Protocol (Protocol for the Prohibition of the Use in War of Asphyxiating, Poisonous or other Gases, and of Bacteriological Methods of Warfare, 1925).
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Geneva_Convention#Collective_punishments
are some of the parts that have been blatantly ignored lately.
shraby
(21,946 posts)educate some people on another thread was tiring...they refused to learn and kept citing the worn out "not soldiers so conventions don't apply."
Don't they understand that the newspaper owner in Germany in WWII was hanged for his part in spreading propaganda?
malaise
(269,064 posts)ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)shraby
(21,946 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)and apply even in war. The Geneva Conventions cannot magically enforce themselves, as I am sure you know.
shraby
(21,946 posts)don't, other countries have the obligation to.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)laws we have (specifically, the War Crimes Act and the Torture Act). You do understand, I hope, that because vague terms (e.g., "prolonged mental harm" were used in these statutes, wiggle-room was created and that enabled Bybee and Yoo to argue that the waterboarding done by the CIA did not violate the law. Do I agree with their arguments? No, but less ambiguous laws would have made those arguments impossible.
shraby
(21,946 posts)or not should not be done to a prisoner. When a person is taken prisoner, there are responsibilities involved. To feed them give them necessary medical care and do no harm are the biggies. I don't see any wriggle room in that.
Only sociopaths and psychopaths would even look for wriggle room to condone what they like to do to others...major harm.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)The laws I am talking about do not criminalize all failures to meet our responsibilities to prisoners during war. They criminalize torture, and they criminalize certain grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions that you keep referencing, but they don't criminalize the failure to "do no harm." We need such laws because even a clear violation of the Geneva Conventions is not guaranteed to be punished. The Geneva Conventions themselves require their signatories to establish such criminal laws. My argument is that the laws we have need to be improved.