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Omaha Steve

(99,795 posts)
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 07:02 PM Dec 2014

Police unions, organized labor have rarely seen eye to eye


The last 2 & 1/2 years I worked for the city before retiring, I was a uniformed civilian Information Specialist Technician. I worked the front desk. Let me just say as a D liberal I was in the minority in my area.

OS

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/12/22/police-unions-havealwaysbeenalabormovementapart.html

Unionized police officers have never sat comfortably within the broader labor movement, according to historians

December 22, 2014 3:49PM ET
by Ned Resnikoff @resnikoff

Police unions and the broader labor movement are marching in opposite directions. While many of America's biggest labor organizations support the recent protests against policing practices, unions representing law enforcement officers have largely closed ranks, lashing out against voices calling for reform.

That the major law enforcement unions have openly bucked the prevailing rhetoric of the rest of the labor movement regarding the deaths two unarmed black men killed by police: Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri and Eric Garner in Staten Island, New York reflects the historic tension between those who called strikes and those who enforced laws breaking them.

After Richard Trumka, president of the labor coalition AFL-CIO, co-signed an open letter to President Barack Obama regarding the "long list of black men and boys who have died under eerily similar circumstances" in August, he caught flak from police officers within the very coalition he oversees.

"In the aftermath of the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson and the death of Eric Garner in New York, the International Union of Police Associations withheld comment until facts were known," wrote its president, Sam Cabral, in early December. "We wish the administration as well as the president of the AFL-CIO had been as thoughtful. I believe that anyone making pronouncements before knowing the facts has an agenda, not a position."

FULL story at link.

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Police unions, organized labor have rarely seen eye to eye (Original Post) Omaha Steve Dec 2014 OP
So is this a preface to abandoning the police unions? LincolnsLeftHand Dec 2014 #1
It's called 'divide and conquer' customerserviceguy Dec 2014 #2
Define abandoning Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #4
The cops were almost always called in to put down labor protests and strikes. Cerridwen Dec 2014 #3
police unions what i've seen are right-wing as a whole juxtaposed Dec 2014 #5
That is the same where I am. LiberalFighter Dec 2014 #7
The indicator regarding "police unions" is that they don't refer themselves as a union. LiberalFighter Dec 2014 #6
Palace Guard vs. The People? moondust Dec 2014 #8
i support all unions Ramses Dec 2014 #9
Thanks Steve. Cha Dec 2014 #10

Omaha Steve

(99,795 posts)
4. Define abandoning
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 08:20 PM
Dec 2014

As far as if they are allowed to exist, that is up to the state governments for the most part.

Remember when police and fire backed Walker in his first run for governor that he exempted police and fire from the new laws that stuck it to the rest of the public unions in the state.

Cerridwen

(13,260 posts)
3. The cops were almost always called in to put down labor protests and strikes.
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 08:12 PM
Dec 2014

The pinkertons keep coming to mind though I'm sure they weren't the first. "hired guns"

It goes back to almost the start of the labor movements here in the US.

My dad was a Teamster. Mom wouldn't let him tell me all the stories. The ones he did tell were ugly.



 

juxtaposed

(2,778 posts)
5. police unions what i've seen are right-wing as a whole
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 08:21 PM
Dec 2014

police unions and fire fighter unions are always battling for a piece of each others pie.
I've never seen a cop come out in support of any other union but their own in my area.
Fire fighters seem to be more sympathetic to labor as a whole.

LiberalFighter

(51,196 posts)
7. That is the same where I am.
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 08:27 PM
Dec 2014

The city eliminated all govt unions in the city except for the police and fire.

LiberalFighter

(51,196 posts)
6. The indicator regarding "police unions" is that they don't refer themselves as a union.
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 08:26 PM
Dec 2014

They believe that term is beneath themselves.

moondust

(20,017 posts)
8. Palace Guard vs. The People?
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 08:29 PM
Dec 2014

Perhaps in some places (like Staten Island). Growing inequality probably widening the division.

 

Ramses

(721 posts)
9. i support all unions
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 08:39 PM
Dec 2014

Police,when they have assaulted or murdered someone should be held both criminally and civillaly liable. Teachers are held as such when there is wrongdoing. Health care workers are held as such. Cops, not at all. This needs to change

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