General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDU Update: Polls are almost ready for launch -- please help us test
We are now testing DU3's new poll functionality! Currently only Admins can create polls but once this test is complete we'll open it up to all eligible members.
DIFFERENCES BETWEEN DU2 POLLS AND DU3 POLLS
- DU3 polls now come with the option to set a time limit (24 hours, 48 hours, 72 hours, 1 week, 2 weeks, 1 month) after which the poll will expire and people will no longer be able to vote. There is also an "Unlimited" option.
- DU2 poll votes were private. DU3 poll votes are public. Logged-in members can click the "Show usernames" link to see who voted for which option.
- DU2 polls would not allow you to change your vote once it had been cast. DU3 polls allow you to undo your vote and make a different choice if you change your mind (or if you accidentally clicked the wrong button).
- While any logged-in member can vote in a DU3 poll, only Star Members can create DU3 polls. This has not changed from DU2 where only donors could create polls.
- Polls in groups: by default polls can be created in all groups. However, if an individual group decides that they do not wish to allow polls, they can petition Admin and we'll consider disabling polls in that group.
- Polls in forums: polls may be posted in General Discussion, Politics 2012, and The Lounge. Polls cannot be created in Latest Breaking News, Video & Multimedia, or Good Reads, since polls would generally contradict the Statements Of Purpose for those forums. In addition polls cannot be created in Help & Meta-discussion, because that forum doesn't need any new tools for creating drama.
- All DU3 polls automatically include an option to "Pass" which allows members to indicate that they don't want to choose any of the available options.
What is your favorite presidential quote?
123 votes, 6 passes | Time left: Time expired | |
"Yes we can." | |
13 (11%) |
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"I am not a crook." | |
6 (5%) |
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"I still believe in a place called Hope." | |
5 (4%) |
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"Trees cause more pollution than automobiles do." | |
6 (5%) |
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"Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country." | |
15 (12%) |
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"Read my lips, no new taxes." | |
0 (0%) |
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"I don't give them Hell. I just tell the truth about them and they think it's Hell." | |
59 (48%) |
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"Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job." | |
2 (2%) |
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"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." | |
17 (14%) |
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6 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided. | |
Show usernames
Disclaimer: This is an Internet poll |
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(19,768 posts)spanone
(135,844 posts)annabanana
(52,791 posts)hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)Oh and Good on the admins (and especially Elad) for all the hard work/programming on this
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,350 posts)... in the Help and Meta (aka "Whining" forum.
And, +1 on the congrats to admins for the work.
hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)so surely you'd advise cross posting in the "gungeon"..... The gungeon-- where posts go to die... "Help & Meta" where threads NEVER die (though many of us, after perusing that forum, advocate for mercy killing).
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)a mercy killing or a good
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)siligut
(12,272 posts)Beautiful, classic, easy to read design.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)because that forum doesn't need any new tools for creating drama."
RC
(25,592 posts)To settle arguments on who really had a majority say on things. The back and forth, you know - "Don't you dare, that's hurtful". / "Huh? They just used that on Sesame Street a few minutes ago".
Drama! Some people just don't know the meaning of the word.
TBF
(32,067 posts)gkhouston
(21,642 posts)pscot
(21,024 posts)tabatha
(18,795 posts)e.g. the photography polls - possibly those should be not shown. (Maybe that is a flawed thought.)
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)The photography polls are really just contests with nothing to be gained by showing usernames. Showing them may contribute to hurt feelings with no corresponding benefit.
Maine-ah
(9,902 posts)I think that there are plenty of polls that have been created on DU on subject matter that a person wouldn't want to be identified. Yeah, they can make the choice not to vote, but I think that wouldn't show a true representation of DU in that poll.
Meh, jmho.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)especially this bit:
Sid
freshwest
(53,661 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)mopinko
(70,127 posts)MattBaggins
(7,904 posts)Using any online poll as a serious snapshot of public opinion is not in any way a good idea, but if a poll is to have any real meaning anonymity is crucial or people will abstain from voting or go with the popular option.
I understand the desire to have people take ownership of their views but for the purpose of polling it will simply have a silencing effect and start flame wars.
Skinner
(63,645 posts)The admins could see how people voted on DU2. One of the more interesting phenomena (and not uncommon) was when people would vote for a particular option, and then reply in the thread to express their shock that someone would vote that way.
Yes, this happened regularly.
There would also be those times when someone would put up an offensive poll (with, say, a bigoted option), and people would actually vote for it. Sometimes those votes were cast to protest the offensive option, but you dont really know. Whatever the reason, I was the one who had to deal with it.
Internet polls are BS anyway. There is no compelling need for anonymity.
Call Me Wesley
(38,187 posts)why implement it? The only polls I really took for serious were the ones from the Photography group anyway.
Skinner
(63,645 posts)Call Me Wesley
(38,187 posts)Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)I just wanted it to f'n stop.
Bake
(21,977 posts)You mean those weren't serious??
*gasp*
Bake
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)SmellyFeet
(162 posts)I think this feature is part of his effort to do that.
lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)In order to be an official poll does it not have to have an "Other" ?
Kidding of course.
CrispyQ
(36,478 posts):thumbup: :thumbup:
I've missed the polls! Glad to have them back.
dmallind
(10,437 posts)Can only test enter, change and reveal functions but all work just fine as far as I can see. Prefer the new look too.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)janx
(24,128 posts)SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)you too can change your vote.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)Also, looks good!
Skinner
(63,645 posts)Probably not. But we can add them later if we want.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)There was a discussion there about how polls might be useful.
Skinner
(63,645 posts)Probably not. But again, we can add them later.
NNN0LHI
(67,190 posts)Thank you guys very much for all you do. Never done this type of work but I am sure it is some painstaking stuff. I sure appreciate it.
Don
obxhead
(8,434 posts)and has about the same accuracy as the polls the M$M reports.
Great to see polls coming back soon. They were always amusing to me.
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)after that long introduction I was too exhausted to read all the other options.
blaze
(6,362 posts)ohiosmith
(24,262 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)This is awesome sauce.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)It is one of those very revealing quotes that tell you what a party wants to do... in this case it was prophetic.
We should pay as much attention to the negative revealing ones, as we do to the lift your spirits ones.
Rex
(65,616 posts)!!!
MerryBlooms
(11,770 posts)Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,636 posts)I LIKE it!
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)William769
(55,147 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)I voted for it. Wish more politicians felt that way!
Not to quibble since this is just a "test" run, but the actual quote is usually written as:
"I NEVER GAVE anybody hell. I just told the truth and they think it's hell."
libodem
(19,288 posts)Earl G.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Raygun - 1981 I had to google it.
Call Me Wesley
(38,187 posts)but the ability to change the vote? This renders any poll into a joke. Sure, it gives me the ability, after casting my vote, to still vote with the cool guys if I feel outnumbered. It was a nifty tool back on DU2 to track trolls, now they just can opt out saying 'Ooops, I didn't mean hating gay people, I just clicked on the wrong button.' Easy pass.
The pass option is quite redundant, since no one is forced to vote in a poll.
But really, change the vote? I wish I could do this after election time ...
patricia92243
(12,597 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Will we be able to add or remove options? (if so what happens to the votes) Extend the time? Reopen an expired poll?
I'm Curious. Love the gradients though.
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)I would never create a public poll if I had the choice and I likely won't vote in many controversial pollls since the options are public.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)Bless... what a great quote.
Bruce Wayne
(692 posts)I'm a very private person. What the hell ever happened to the Australian ballot? This is outright commiefascism! Someone needs to DU this poll right fucking now!!
(I'm being hysterical enough for GD, right?)
Fearless
(18,421 posts)harmonicon
(12,008 posts)For anyone who spends more than 30 seconds in there, it should be pretty clear why. Good call on that.
rgbecker
(4,832 posts)I love the fact user names are shown. The anonymous poll business is not good for anything.
countryjake
(8,554 posts).
countryjake
(8,554 posts)Nice going, getting the Poll function back up and running! It's looking slick as a whistle!
Robb
(39,665 posts)I'm laughing that this announcement isn't in "Announcements," because, well, you clearly want us to read it.
Skinner
(63,645 posts)And it will be posted in the proper forum.
Today is beta testing.
Robb
(39,665 posts)AllyCat
(16,189 posts)Skinner
(63,645 posts)That's how it worked on DU2, also.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Jack Rabbit
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Dead_Parrot
(14,478 posts)RevStPatrick
(2,208 posts)...if the user names are shown.
I guess it's just a lifetime of "secret ballots" that I don't want anybody to ever know how I voted for anything ever.
Enjoy!
malaise
(269,054 posts)Rec
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)I like how you carried the transparency over to the polls as well. That'll be one less thing for members to wonder about.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)People seem to be breaking down by ideological lines
Truman Democrats: 39%
Obama Democrats: 17%
Kennedy Democrats: 14%
Roosevelt Democrats: 14%
Ridiculous Democrats: 14%
Make of it what you will...
REP
(21,691 posts)DianaForRussFeingold
(2,552 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)He nuked Japan and signed TaftHartley for crying out loud. I'm not a fan.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)What's up with that?
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)I voted for Truman's quote 'cause I like it the best.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)Autumn
(45,107 posts)so your test will be off. It doesn't include Robb is a dingbat
Rowdyboy
(22,057 posts)Thanksfor all the hard work
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,518 posts)Rhiannon12866
(205,489 posts)ornotna
(10,803 posts)Very nice, I voted 9 times!
Yavapai
(825 posts)"Trees cause more pollution than automobiles do."
Because that is the most stupid thing ever said in a campaign.
A close friend told me that after he said it, a few days he later gave a speech at his college and students had
put banners in the trees nearby saying "Kill me before I pollute again!"
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)"Nah, I don't need a coat. It's not that cold today." ~ William Henry Harrison
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Can't wait for it to be rolled out!
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,075 posts)Previously, you could only post in the photography group if you were a star member - but the cost of the star was pretty much up to the donor, and if you were really stuck a buddy could contribute for you. Not so any longer. The the bar is considerably higher to become star members, and (at least as of the last official statement I am aware of) purchase of a star by someone else is not permitted.
Everyone can post in the photography group now (so we don't have to be a paid member to participate in the contest), so even non-star members can participate and win the contest. The contest tradition has been that the winner hosts the next contest - andt the winner may well be someone who is not a star member.
Not an insurmountable challenge, but requiring a star to post a poll does have some different implications for the photography contest than it did on DU2.
TroglodyteScholar
(5,477 posts)Very cool!
KBlagburn
(567 posts)UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)Auggie
(31,173 posts)great design too.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)Ohio Joe
(21,757 posts)Any poll without a 'Robb is a dingbat' option is not a real poll
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Easily could pick a top three, se si pueda.....
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)If we want to advocate a change to this kind of voting to help us get away from voting for the lesser of two evils in some situations that many of us here have felt the elections have become in many instances, it would nice to have an incubator to show this sort of voting method in action on many issues where it could be appropriate here to help all of us not just talk about it, but live it to see how well it works in day to day assessment of our opinions here.
There are some online examples of instant runoff voting on other sites that one could use as a model to implement voting as well as displaying results.
hunter
(38,317 posts)... Yes we can.