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kpete

(71,997 posts)
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 09:54 AM Dec 2014

The Rude Pundit Is Right: "The NRA has caused more cop shootings than a nonstop parade of protests"

What's gonna protect cops more? Locking up peaceful protesters? Or reducing the number of and access to guns?

For just one second, put yourself in an American cop's shoes. There are over 300 million firearms out there. When you see someone you want to arrest, you just assume that person has a gun. If you're an inexperience, poorly-trained, or just shitty cop, you're gonna mistake anything for a gun because you're expecting a gun. When someone reaches for a pocket, you expect a gun. Because that's America in the 21st century. This ain't to excuse cops who fuck up, but you can fuckin' well bet that cops in England don't automatically assume someone has a gun because it's England. Chances are that they don't. It's a different way of existing, being actually shocked by guns.

The NRA has caused more cop shootings than a nonstop parade of protests.

Conservatives don't actually give a fuck about cops as people, despite their moaning over the deaths of Officers Liu and Ramos. What they like is the authority and control the cops represent, the police force as a means of oppressing dissent (and, let's be honest, a lot of cops get off on the authority and control, too). If the right-wing did give a fuck, police would make a shit-ton more money, paid for by tax hikes, like Democratic Mayor Mitch Landrieu is attempting in New Orleans.

And maybe they'd not cut the pensions and benefits of retired cops like fake tough guy Chris Christie,
who seeks to balance New Jersey's budget on the backs of the police and firefighters. In October, a retired police officer called into a radio show to talk to Christie. After brushing off the cop's attempt to criticize him, Christie jowled, "You're a guy that retired at 58 years old, with a full pension and free medical benefits for life, and you're coming on the air to complain...Pay your fair share." If President Obama said that, Fox "news" would cause riots.

What is hurting cops more? Mayor de Blasio saying that asshole cops should stop being assholes? Or Gov. Christie telling cops that their pensions might not be there in full when they retire?

- See more at: http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/#sthash.A6VbAJSl.dpuf



that and a toon:
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The Rude Pundit Is Right: "The NRA has caused more cop shootings than a nonstop parade of protests" (Original Post) kpete Dec 2014 OP
Don't brandish your PSD. ileus Dec 2014 #1
feel bad that you need such protection, kpete Dec 2014 #2
I carried for 10 years and never needed safeinOhio Dec 2014 #3
Why did you carry? What was your rational before you stopped carrying a firearm? Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #5
At the time I was married to a cop safeinOhio Dec 2014 #6
Good for you. tradewinds Dec 2014 #15
I truly do feel bad for those folks that think they need protection of a firearm in their own home. Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #4
Right, because the NRA makes the laws and votes in politicians, aikoaiko Dec 2014 #7
Right, because poor deflective sarcasm based on ridiculous allegories defending the NRA is what we do Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #8
And yet...Whoomp. There it is. aikoaiko Dec 2014 #9
And yes you are right most cops are NRA members. classykaren Dec 2014 #10
Oh. Where did you find that statistic? aikoaiko Dec 2014 #11
Same place Fox News gets their facts, out of their own keesters. Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #12
Post all you like, not that I can do anything about it. But do not say the NRA belongs anywhere near Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #13
Maybe they should because they defend the 2 Amendment better than the ACLU. aikoaiko Dec 2014 #16
I bet this guy is. tradewinds Dec 2014 #14
No, I wish a LEO was on the bridge and arrested him. aikoaiko Dec 2014 #17
THey have not arrested him , yet. tradewinds Dec 2014 #18
Now it's more difficult to arrest him. aikoaiko Dec 2014 #19
K Cha Dec 2014 #20
KICK! Cha Dec 2014 #21
KICK Cha Dec 2014 #22
Plainly visible: an NRA death machine leads to yet another citizen being killed by the police -- Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #23

ileus

(15,396 posts)
1. Don't brandish your PSD.
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 10:01 AM
Dec 2014

I carry a firearm daily, encounter LEO's often. Never been shot....of course I carry legally to protect the lives of those I love and don't pull a gun when cops are near so that may make a difference.

Safety first, dying later...

safeinOhio

(32,690 posts)
3. I carried for 10 years and never needed
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 10:21 AM
Dec 2014

it in those 10 years. Came to the conclusion that I was safer without a weapon. Let my permit expire and sold most of my weapons.

safeinOhio

(32,690 posts)
6. At the time I was married to a cop
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 11:54 AM
Dec 2014

She always carried and thought I needed to. Learned a lot about cops and guns. Now I don't want to be around either.

 

tradewinds

(260 posts)
15. Good for you.
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 01:51 PM
Dec 2014

It is much more likely that your gun will harm yourself or a famly member than it is to "protect" anything.


Good luck with that.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
4. I truly do feel bad for those folks that think they need protection of a firearm in their own home.
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 11:02 AM
Dec 2014

Or parents who purchase firearms marketed by the vile and evil NRA to children...and I blame the parents that can not separate the vicious anti-Obama rhetoric of the ?NRA but still call themselves progressives and liberals.

300 million killing machines already in America is weighing the nation down with its resultant violence.

"The NRA has caused more cop shootings than a nonstop parade of protests."

And returns to America absolutely nothing but business for funeral homes, a spin off benefit of terminal lead poisoning by bullet, there is that...along with untold human misery.

aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
7. Right, because the NRA makes the laws and votes in politicians,
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 12:02 PM
Dec 2014

And of course, cop killers are all NRA members. Life members I bet.



Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. Right, because poor deflective sarcasm based on ridiculous allegories defending the NRA is what we do
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 12:13 PM
Dec 2014

at a liberal, progressive site so left leaning it is underground?

aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
9. And yet...Whoomp. There it is.
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 12:26 PM
Dec 2014

Sorry Fred. I'm a Democrat and I get to post in these threads, too.

I'm not so much defending the NRA as calling the rude one on his bs.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
13. Post all you like, not that I can do anything about it. But do not say the NRA belongs anywhere near
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 12:45 PM
Dec 2014

progressive gun issues.

Your freedom is speech is matched by my freedom to speak about the hypocrisy.

aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
16. Maybe they should because they defend the 2 Amendment better than the ACLU.
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 02:37 PM
Dec 2014


with exception of a few local chapters.

aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
19. Now it's more difficult to arrest him.
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 03:24 PM
Dec 2014

He could just as easily say he was not aiming at people or, better defense yet, he was protecting the LEO.
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