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ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 05:36 AM Dec 2014

Off duty, black cops in New York feel threatened by fellow police officers

What’s emerging now is that, within the thin blue line of the NYPD, there is another divide – between black and white officers.

Reuters interviewed 25 African American male officers on the NYPD, 15 of whom are retired and 10 of whom are still serving. All but one said that, when off duty and out of uniform, they had been victims of racial profiling, which refers to using race or ethnicity as grounds for suspecting someone of having committed a crime.

The officers said this included being pulled over for no reason, having their heads slammed against their cars, getting guns brandished in their faces, being thrown into prison vans and experiencing stop and frisks while shopping. The majority of the officers said they had been pulled over multiple times while driving. Five had had guns pulled on them.


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/off-duty-black-cops-in-new-york-feel-threatened-by-fellow-police-officers/

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Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
5. Ain't that the truth
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 08:23 AM
Dec 2014

Does that make the cops worse than, or simply an extension of, the problems of race disparity in our culture?

BumRushDaShow

(129,118 posts)
2. Been going on for a long time
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 07:51 AM
Dec 2014
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/31/nyregion/31friendly.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Instinctual judgments about race and crime are woven into the culture of the streets. “We tend to pretend in the police force that we don’t see race, we don’t see ethnicity, but we do,” said Senator Adams, the former police captain. “One of my cops once said that if he sees a non-uniformed black man with a gun, he takes precautions for himself; if he sees a white guy with a gun, he takes precautions for both because he knows it could be a fellow cop.”


Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
3. Kicked and recommended! There ya go. Even NYC police officers feel profiled and in danger.
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 07:52 AM
Dec 2014

Fuck you, Giuliani.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
4. I thought it was only "thugs" and "lawbreakers" that had any reason for concern from "overzealous"
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 08:22 AM
Dec 2014

police.

Guess what it really means is "thug" and "lawbreakers" is just lame code for black. Like how some refer to President Obama as "the head thug" when whatever else one thinks of the man, he has nary a thuggish bone in his body.

That shit is just the new "nigger" and nothing more. Totally interchangeable.

LuvNewcastle

(16,847 posts)
7. It's strange how that came about;
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 08:43 AM
Dec 2014

I mean using the word "thug" in a racial context. I've always used the word sparingly. I know people from the cream of society and I know people who deal drugs and have spent most of their lives in prison. When I call a person a thug, I mean someone who works for a drug dealer or other underworld character and breaks bones for a living. That's always what I thought a thug was. Now it seems that any poor person, especially a black poor person, with a bad attitude can be a thug. Of course, it doesn't help that some rappers brag about being thugs and people sell merchandise that says "thug life" on it. Most of the people calling themselves thugs are poseurs and most of the people calling other people whom they don't know thugs are clueless racists. I wish more people could see that.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
8. Who are the real thugs? The bankers who deliberately enroll people in mortgages
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 08:54 AM
Dec 2014

they can't manage, so they can take their property?

The Water Company in Detroit which turned off water to 40% of Detroiters?-
NO water. You know what that means? I didn't have water once when the water heater broke for 4 days. Can't cook, Can't use the toilet,
They haven't had water for MONTHS?

How about the well-heeled, well-dressed, well-spoken people who manipulate the price of food while millions starve?

I could go on, but you get the idea.

LuvNewcastle

(16,847 posts)
9. Anybody who cuts off someone's water is worse than a thug.
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 09:12 AM
Dec 2014

That kind of shit is inhuman, in my opinion.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
10. Agree, and Detroiters are not taking this quietly..
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 09:18 AM
Dec 2014

there is a huge organized resistance movement-
search "Detroit Water Brigade"

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
13. I don't believe "bad attitude" has much to anything to do with it either.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 04:48 AM
Dec 2014

They refer to President Obama as "the head thug" and if anything he is too genteel and mealy mouthed for my tastes, to willing and quick to compromise with evil.

Whatever you think of the man, I'm hard pressed to take anyone seriously if their contention is he has a "bad attitude". The dude is about as civil as can be imagined and he is "head thug" from the ones who throw thug around.

No, it is just "nigger" for the early 21st century from the same assholes that weren't long ago were whining angrily about not being "allowed" to say "nigger" any more "but black gangster rappers can say it all the time and they don't get in trouble" because this really stepped on their toes and judge not and all that jazz.

safeinOhio

(32,690 posts)
6. When I was a young teen, our class
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 08:37 AM
Dec 2014

read Black Like Me. If that is not required reading anymore, it should be.

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