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One of the many secrets revealed in the Sony email hack was a discussion about the possibility of Idris Elba, who happens to be black, playing James Bond after Daniel Craig decides it time for him to move on. Idris should be the next bond, Sony co-chair Amy Pascal wrote in an email, referring to the British star of Luther and The Wire
Well, Rush Limbaugh just heard about this plan and he is not happy.
James Bond is a fictional character, obviously, Limbaugh told his listeners of the spy character created by Ian Fleming. He was white and Scottish, period.
I know its racist to probably even point this out, the host continued, uttering the beginning of a sentence that should probably never be finished, but the franchise needs to get with it! He added, We had 50 years of white Bonds because Bond was white!
http://www.mediaite.com/online/rush-limbaugh-is-furious-over-prospect-of-a-black-james-bond/
onenote
(42,767 posts)But that isn't historically accurate either. But Rush would blow a vein about a black Jesus too.
So, it's not about historical accuracy.
It's about being black.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)Fictional being the operative word!
And the rumor is about Idris Elba who is one real hunk.
Watch the British series "Luther." Elba is fantastic.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I saw him first in the Wire..... My husband kept rolling his eye every time Stringer Bell (HE can String My Bell!!!!) came on screen. I might have to rewatch the whole series now.
SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)remastered for HD starting December 26th.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Oh, boy!! I own it on DVD but if they are remastering it, I'm buying it on Blu Ray!!
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)That is all he talks about all day long -
fictional shit
spinbaby
(15,090 posts)Limbaugh doesn't get out much, apparently.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)Roger Moore etc. weren't "Scottish"
D Gary Grady
(133 posts)As I recall, it transpires in "You Only Live Twice" that Bond was half Scottish and half Swiss, and spent much of his childhood in a French-speaking area of Switzerland. Perhaps the next Bond should be Jean Durjardin, who speaks English with a strong French accent (and looks a fair amount like Sean Connery). He actually played OSS 117 in two films. (OSS 117 is a spy who appeared in a long series of novels that started before James Bond. It's been suggested that 007 is derived from 117, though Fleming had a plausible alternative explanation.) I can imagine Limbaugh's reaction to that.
Idris Elba already caused controversy for playing the Norse god Heimdal in the Marvel "Thor" movies. One fan ranted before seeing the first film that it was outrageously dumb casting given one would expect Norse gods to be ultra-white, but after seeing the film did a follow-up post saying he'd been wrong, that Elba had been great in the part. I tend to agree. He wasn't really given all that much to do and he still came across as one of the most memorable characters in the film, after Kat Dennings anyway.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,485 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Not a huge Bond fan; not sure if I have ever seen a Bond flick in full.
Has it been established in the films that Bond is white? And are these movies continuations from the previous ones, or are they all stand alone films?
If they are stand alone films, then I have no issue with casting a non-white actor. Same thing for remakes. If it's a remake, then they can remake it however they want to, using different races for the actors.
But I kind of have an issue with changing the character (whatever race the person is) after it's already been established.
Not so much a race issue, but a character issue. Like if they made another Harry Potter and they hire Channing Tatum as Harry. That would bother me. Channing doesn't fit my idea of what Harry should be. Well, I guess Harry could be all grown up and have joined a gym, but, to me, Harry is kind of nerdy, thin build; just like he was portrayed in the movies.
Not sure if I got my point across or just offended everyone (LOL). Have at it
Edited:
Another example: I wouldn't want to see anyone other than a black man play Jules Winnfield if they did a sequel to Pulp Fiction. Although not really sure if it was established if Winnfield had black roots or not.
Again, not sure if anything I just said makes sense.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Bond was young (30s) in the early 1960s, and still appears young (30s) today.
How can that be the same person? The same person fighting Kruschev era Soviet spies and Spectre fighting the challenges of today?
There is plenty of room for creative changes there IMNSHO.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)The young-old thing. And, yes, all for creative changes, as long as they pretty much stay true to the character---whatever they may be.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Not ever meant to be one person.
sir pball
(4,760 posts)The name's the important part.
Mariana
(14,861 posts)but it's a cool idea that makes a lot of sense. It's a code name and a cover identity. The agents' real names are so secret they never use them. They may even be made into Unpersons when they take the job - all their records are erased, as if they never existed.
Warpy
(111,351 posts)but I can't imagine any POC being as much of a fussy old fop as Bond was.
From what little I've seen of Bond, I would have to agree.
Thanks for answering.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)... as wikipedia calls him "the self-obsessed model Greer Childs (John Canada Terrell)"
Cirque du So-What
(25,984 posts)For fuck sake don't stroke out over it. That would be horrible.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)That guy gets so worked up over nothing, one of these days he will blow a heat valve.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Cha
(297,686 posts)MFrohike
(1,980 posts)Bond had a Scottish father and Swiss mother. Connery was a happy accident in that he can't do anything but his own native accent.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)on edit: and even if rush is half right, he's still drug addled.
MFrohike
(1,980 posts)He was half right and you're just right.
eridani
(51,907 posts)Where there's smoke, there's fire, AMIRITE??
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Says Jabba. "I'm not as fat as Rush, and I'm not a pedophile, how can this work? I am insulted!
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Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)he really tries though.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)He just uses Medical Marijuana
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I kind of see each movie as a stand alone entity since they changed the original Bond guy. So, I don't care who plays James Bond, that can be some kind of code name for the guy that does what he does for all I know.
starroute
(12,977 posts)Ah, yes. A justly forgotten disaster -- but it does make the point that *anybody* can be Bond.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_Royale_%281967_film%29
Casino Royale is a 1967 spy comedy film originally produced by Columbia Pictures starring an ensemble cast of directors and actors. It is loosely based on Ian Fleming's first James Bond novel. The film stars David Niven as the "original" Bond, Sir James Bond 007. Forced out of retirement to investigate the deaths and disappearances of international spies, he soon battles the mysterious Dr. Noah and SMERSH.The film's slogan: "Casino Royale is too much... for one James Bond!" refers to Bond's ruse to mislead SMERSH in which six other agents are pretending to be "James Bond", namely, Baccarat master Evelyn Tremble (Peter Sellers); millionaire spy Vesper Lynd (Ursula Andress); Bond's secretary Miss Moneypenny (Barbara Bouchet); Bond's daughter with Mata Hari, Mata Bond (Joanna Pettet); and British agents "Coop" (Terence Cooper) and "The Detainer" (Daliah Lavi). . . .
Bond is promoted to the head of MI6. He learns that many British agents around the world have been eliminated by enemy spies because of their inability to resist sex. Bond is also told that the 'sex maniac' who was given the name of 'James Bond' when the original Bond retired has gone to work in television. He then orders that all remaining MI6 agents will be named "James Bond 007", to confuse SMERSH. He also creates a rigorous programme to train male agents to ignore the charms of women. Moneypenny recruits "Coop", a karate expert who begins training to resist seductive women: he also meets an exotic agent known as the Detainer.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)and like I said James Bond could be nothing more than a code name.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)But when is a gay Bond coming? Watch heads
hughee99
(16,113 posts)Nt
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)eggplant
(3,913 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Limbo may throw up now.lol
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Look like she is giving Craig a close shave.
eggplant
(3,913 posts)oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Has Rush ever been happy about anything? I do not follow him, only see posts here when he is in a rage. So, curious. Can you tell me if he has ever been happy about anything?
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)He's usually happy when minorities don't get too uppity and "stay in their place"
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)A good looking black James Bond can be a real ladies' man just like a white man, but...well...I'm not sure you could say the same thing about a gay Bond.
Initech
(100,103 posts)Still complaining? Then there's a great group of like minded individuals you can join. They wear white robes and preach on Sundays. I also hear that they are recruiting new members.
MFrohike
(1,980 posts)Of course, that's because I think he's too good for the part. It would be like Benedict Cumberbatch in the last Star Trek film. Cumberbatch, and I assume Elba, would do great, but it seems like a waste of time and effort for such a great actor.
That being said, Idris Elba as James Bond would definitely rewrite the role in terms of cool. I'm picturing a suave, less frustrated Luther with actual resources at his back. You know, maybe it's not such a bad idea after all!
madokie
(51,076 posts)He is NOT a MAN, he might be a male but a man he goddamn sure isn't. I know it didn't say anything about him being a man but I still feel like I needed to type that.
fuck'em with a rusty wire brush up one side of his anus and down the other. He is responsible for a lot of the problems we have in this country in the fact of the shit he spews day in and day out.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)black NFL quarterbacks?
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)conscious and breathing you are being a racist.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Yes. The next agent with the code 007 and fake name James Bond could obviously be black.
olddots
(10,237 posts)choke on that Rush !!!!
Rex
(65,616 posts)So much of this country still lives in the 19th century.
maced666
(771 posts)But, you deserve it.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)BARACK OBAMA..
Hahaa Rushbulb!!
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)Because she is as of Skyfall:
The lovely Naomie Harris.
Brilliant casting and role development IMHO.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)M was male. Judi Dench certainly is not.
Rush needs to be outraged about something or he couldn't fan the flames of the idiots, I mean his listener;s hate.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)He's irrelevant now. Even the wingers I know haven't mentioned him in years.
treestar
(82,383 posts)What an idiot. He's trying to create a reality of a fictional character.
I bet it bugs him to have black actors play Hamlet, too.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)and Mr. Clean
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Besides, the best, most-believable Scottish character ever conceived was a black man!
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)hatrack
(59,592 posts)A guy can dream.
DBoon
(22,397 posts)I look forward to an African American actor playing him in the near future.
gvstn
(2,805 posts)Thought is would be timely here at DU
tblue37
(65,488 posts)"He just is !" she exclaimed.
pokerfan
(27,677 posts)elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)So?
1step
(380 posts)He's been on the air way too long, anyway. Should have been fired long ago. Maybe this does it.
geomon666
(7,512 posts)Just so we can watch his fat head explode.