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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 07:28 PM Dec 2014

Rush Limbaugh Is Furious Over Prospect of a Black James Bond

One of the many secrets revealed in the Sony email hack was a discussion about the possibility of Idris Elba, who happens to be black, playing James Bond after Daniel Craig decides it time for him to move on. “Idris should be the next bond,” Sony co-chair Amy Pascal wrote in an email, referring to the British star of Luther and The Wire

Well, Rush Limbaugh just heard about this plan and he is not happy.

“James Bond is a fictional character, obviously,” Limbaugh told his listeners of the spy character created by Ian Fleming. “He was white and Scottish, period.”


“I know it’s racist to probably even point this out,” the host continued, uttering the beginning of a sentence that should probably never be finished, “but the franchise needs to get with it!” He added, “We had 50 years of white Bonds because Bond was white!”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/rush-limbaugh-is-furious-over-prospect-of-a-black-james-bond/

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Rush Limbaugh Is Furious Over Prospect of a Black James Bond (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Dec 2014 OP
We've had a whole lot of years of white, European featured Jesus too onenote Dec 2014 #1
Yeah, the "fictional" character of James Bond was white TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2014 #15
You said it!!! bravenak Dec 2014 #31
HBO is going to show the whole series SwankyXomb Dec 2014 #40
The WIRE!!??!? bravenak Dec 2014 #41
so hes upset about fictional shit? no surprise... elehhhhna Dec 2014 #69
Because there are no black people living in Scotland? spinbaby Dec 2014 #2
I remember how angry Limbaugh was when he found out that Daniel Craig, Pierce Brosnan..... virtualobserver Dec 2014 #5
In the novels, Bond wasn't all that Scottish D Gary Grady Dec 2014 #53
hurry! tell him peter pan is genrally played by a woman! elehhhhna Dec 2014 #68
Kick. Kingofalldems Dec 2014 #3
Questions: bigwillq Dec 2014 #4
The problem with the idea of continuity is that Bond looks young but would be 80 years old stevenleser Dec 2014 #19
That bothers me too. bigwillq Dec 2014 #26
I think James Bond is a generic name and 007 was assigned to many alphafemale Dec 2014 #36
I've always thought that...sort of like the Dread Pirate Roberts sir pball Dec 2014 #50
I don't think that was even hinted in the original stories Mariana Dec 2014 #73
I read a few of the books back in the day and Fleming didn't specify much about Bond's appearance Warpy Dec 2014 #33
Ha! bigwillq Dec 2014 #34
There was that guy in the Spike Lee movie "She's Gotta Have It"... stevenleser Dec 2014 #37
Artistic license, Oxymoron! Cirque du So-What Dec 2014 #6
Oh pls....DO stroke out over it,Rush. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #60
Correction oh drug addled one, James Bond was British notadmblnd Dec 2014 #7
Sean Connery is the one who is Scottish! Cha Dec 2014 #14
Actually, he's right MFrohike Dec 2014 #21
If we're really going to be technical- he was only half Scottish. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #28
Credit where credit is due MFrohike Dec 2014 #30
I read on the internets tubes that Rush Limbaugh is a pedophile junkie eridani Dec 2014 #72
Jabba the Hutt was offered to play Rush in an upcoming movie Politicalboi Dec 2014 #8
Not quite as evil either Kalidurga Dec 2014 #10
And Jabba isn't a drug abuser Politicalboi Dec 2014 #12
No not an abuser I am quite sure he treats his drugs very gently Kalidurga Dec 2014 #13
At least he admits he is a racist. Kalidurga Dec 2014 #9
Wasn't there an early Casino Royale with 6 different Bonds? starroute Dec 2014 #49
That sounds fabulous Kalidurga Dec 2014 #58
I'm not into Bond either Politicalboi Dec 2014 #11
Coming in 2017, Nathan Lane IS James Bond. hughee99 Dec 2014 #23
Oh God, my tract! NuclearDem Dec 2014 #44
I can't wait to find out who plays Moneypenny. eggplant Dec 2014 #48
the actress Naomie Harris plays Moneypenny now. She was cast in Skyfall SummerSnow Dec 2014 #55
She is an excellent actress. Not hard to look at, either. kwassa Dec 2014 #59
I meant to go with Nathan Lane. eggplant Dec 2014 #64
Just out of curiosity. oldandhappy Dec 2014 #16
Yes Cali_Democrat Dec 2014 #18
I doubt that will happen TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2014 #17
Blow it out your ass, Rush. Initech Dec 2014 #20
I don't like Elba as Bond MFrohike Dec 2014 #22
I'll have to kick and rec anything that gets pedoboy's panties all bunched up madokie Dec 2014 #24
Rush is a punk asshole; I want a Jenna Bond, myself. NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #29
what's next Enrique Dec 2014 #25
Rush, it is racist for you to breathe. I dont mean as in you need to die, i mean that if you are NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #27
Please. 007 and James Bond is a code name. It has been true for all of them. alphafemale Dec 2014 #32
Amy Goodman is James Bond 007 olddots Dec 2014 #35
Racist pigs are alive and thriving in 2014. Rex Dec 2014 #38
How someone working a 350 million dollar contract gets upset is beyond me. maced666 Dec 2014 #39
In honor of his savvy, skill, & GQ handsome-ness, the next James Bond should be played by misterhighwasted Dec 2014 #42
Except when he's white and English or white and Irish. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #43
So does Rush have a problem with Miss Moneypenny now being Black? KeepItReal Dec 2014 #45
Felix Leiter was a blonde Texan. Jack Lord and most actors whp played him were not. Thor_MN Dec 2014 #46
He's still around and on the air? Populist_Prole Dec 2014 #47
Being a fictional character, he can be changed around Rushbo treestar Dec 2014 #51
More crap from this racist, misogynist demagogue? Feeling left out, Ignoramus? freshwest Dec 2014 #52
He may have a stroke after this. The Pillsbury doughboy is black too.lol SummerSnow Dec 2014 #54
He's never heard the "James Bond is a code name" theory? Scootaloo Dec 2014 #56
mr. limbo.. SummerSnow Dec 2014 #57
With luck, Limbaugh will just break out in assholes & shit himself to death . . . hatrack Dec 2014 #61
I believe Rush Limbaugh is an entirely fictional character DBoon Dec 2014 #62
Saw this comment on Gawker. gvstn Dec 2014 #63
I am reminded of Megyn Kelley's insistence that Santa is white. tblue37 Dec 2014 #65
not to mention Jesus.... pokerfan Dec 2014 #66
i dont like sloppy junkie medialiars. elehhhhna Dec 2014 #67
Maybe this latest rage will do the trick for Rush 1step Dec 2014 #70
Someone should tell him we have a black Captain America now. geomon666 Dec 2014 #71
Can an aneurysm be far away? Scuba Dec 2014 #74

onenote

(42,767 posts)
1. We've had a whole lot of years of white, European featured Jesus too
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 07:37 PM
Dec 2014

But that isn't historically accurate either. But Rush would blow a vein about a black Jesus too.

So, it's not about historical accuracy.

It's about being black.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
15. Yeah, the "fictional" character of James Bond was white
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:21 PM
Dec 2014

Fictional being the operative word!

And the rumor is about Idris Elba who is one real hunk.

Watch the British series "Luther." Elba is fantastic.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
31. You said it!!!
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:40 PM
Dec 2014

I saw him first in the Wire..... My husband kept rolling his eye every time Stringer Bell (HE can String My Bell!!!!) came on screen. I might have to rewatch the whole series now.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
41. The WIRE!!??!?
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 09:04 PM
Dec 2014

Oh, boy!! I own it on DVD but if they are remastering it, I'm buying it on Blu Ray!!

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
69. so hes upset about fictional shit? no surprise...
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 01:45 AM
Dec 2014

That is all he talks about all day long -

fictional shit

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
5. I remember how angry Limbaugh was when he found out that Daniel Craig, Pierce Brosnan.....
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 07:53 PM
Dec 2014

Roger Moore etc. weren't "Scottish"

D Gary Grady

(133 posts)
53. In the novels, Bond wasn't all that Scottish
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 10:37 PM
Dec 2014

As I recall, it transpires in "You Only Live Twice" that Bond was half Scottish and half Swiss, and spent much of his childhood in a French-speaking area of Switzerland. Perhaps the next Bond should be Jean Durjardin, who speaks English with a strong French accent (and looks a fair amount like Sean Connery). He actually played OSS 117 in two films. (OSS 117 is a spy who appeared in a long series of novels that started before James Bond. It's been suggested that 007 is derived from 117, though Fleming had a plausible alternative explanation.) I can imagine Limbaugh's reaction to that.

Idris Elba already caused controversy for playing the Norse god Heimdal in the Marvel "Thor" movies. One fan ranted before seeing the first film that it was outrageously dumb casting given one would expect Norse gods to be ultra-white, but after seeing the film did a follow-up post saying he'd been wrong, that Elba had been great in the part. I tend to agree. He wasn't really given all that much to do and he still came across as one of the most memorable characters in the film, after Kat Dennings anyway.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
4. Questions:
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 07:53 PM
Dec 2014

Not a huge Bond fan; not sure if I have ever seen a Bond flick in full.

Has it been established in the films that Bond is white? And are these movies continuations from the previous ones, or are they all stand alone films?

If they are stand alone films, then I have no issue with casting a non-white actor. Same thing for remakes. If it's a remake, then they can remake it however they want to, using different races for the actors.

But I kind of have an issue with changing the character (whatever race the person is) after it's already been established.

Not so much a race issue, but a character issue. Like if they made another Harry Potter and they hire Channing Tatum as Harry. That would bother me. Channing doesn't fit my idea of what Harry should be. Well, I guess Harry could be all grown up and have joined a gym, but, to me, Harry is kind of nerdy, thin build; just like he was portrayed in the movies.

Not sure if I got my point across or just offended everyone (LOL). Have at it

Edited:

Another example: I wouldn't want to see anyone other than a black man play Jules Winnfield if they did a sequel to Pulp Fiction. Although not really sure if it was established if Winnfield had black roots or not.

Again, not sure if anything I just said makes sense.


 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
19. The problem with the idea of continuity is that Bond looks young but would be 80 years old
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:25 PM
Dec 2014

Bond was young (30s) in the early 1960s, and still appears young (30s) today.

How can that be the same person? The same person fighting Kruschev era Soviet spies and Spectre fighting the challenges of today?

There is plenty of room for creative changes there IMNSHO.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
26. That bothers me too.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:34 PM
Dec 2014

The young-old thing. And, yes, all for creative changes, as long as they pretty much stay true to the character---whatever they may be.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
73. I don't think that was even hinted in the original stories
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 06:40 AM
Dec 2014

but it's a cool idea that makes a lot of sense. It's a code name and a cover identity. The agents' real names are so secret they never use them. They may even be made into Unpersons when they take the job - all their records are erased, as if they never existed.

Warpy

(111,351 posts)
33. I read a few of the books back in the day and Fleming didn't specify much about Bond's appearance
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:42 PM
Dec 2014

but I can't imagine any POC being as much of a fussy old fop as Bond was.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
37. There was that guy in the Spike Lee movie "She's Gotta Have It"...
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:52 PM
Dec 2014

... as wikipedia calls him "the self-obsessed model Greer Childs (John Canada Terrell)"

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
60. Oh pls....DO stroke out over it,Rush.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 11:35 PM
Dec 2014

That guy gets so worked up over nothing, one of these days he will blow a heat valve.

MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
21. Actually, he's right
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:28 PM
Dec 2014

Bond had a Scottish father and Swiss mother. Connery was a happy accident in that he can't do anything but his own native accent.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
28. If we're really going to be technical- he was only half Scottish.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:34 PM
Dec 2014

on edit: and even if rush is half right, he's still drug addled.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
72. I read on the internets tubes that Rush Limbaugh is a pedophile junkie
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 02:18 AM
Dec 2014

Where there's smoke, there's fire, AMIRITE??

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
8. Jabba the Hutt was offered to play Rush in an upcoming movie
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:09 PM
Dec 2014

Says Jabba. "I'm not as fat as Rush, and I'm not a pedophile, how can this work? I am insulted!

<a href="http://imgur.com/lxed8vg"><img src="" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
9. At least he admits he is a racist.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:10 PM
Dec 2014

I kind of see each movie as a stand alone entity since they changed the original Bond guy. So, I don't care who plays James Bond, that can be some kind of code name for the guy that does what he does for all I know.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
49. Wasn't there an early Casino Royale with 6 different Bonds?
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 10:25 PM
Dec 2014

Ah, yes. A justly forgotten disaster -- but it does make the point that *anybody* can be Bond.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_Royale_%281967_film%29

Casino Royale is a 1967 spy comedy film originally produced by Columbia Pictures starring an ensemble cast of directors and actors. It is loosely based on Ian Fleming's first James Bond novel. The film stars David Niven as the "original" Bond, Sir James Bond 007. Forced out of retirement to investigate the deaths and disappearances of international spies, he soon battles the mysterious Dr. Noah and SMERSH.The film's slogan: "Casino Royale is too much... for one James Bond!" refers to Bond's ruse to mislead SMERSH in which six other agents are pretending to be "James Bond", namely, Baccarat master Evelyn Tremble (Peter Sellers); millionaire spy Vesper Lynd (Ursula Andress); Bond's secretary Miss Moneypenny (Barbara Bouchet); Bond's daughter with Mata Hari, Mata Bond (Joanna Pettet); and British agents "Coop" (Terence Cooper) and "The Detainer" (Daliah Lavi). . . .

Bond is promoted to the head of MI6. He learns that many British agents around the world have been eliminated by enemy spies because of their inability to resist sex. Bond is also told that the 'sex maniac' who was given the name of 'James Bond' when the original Bond retired has gone to work in television. He then orders that all remaining MI6 agents will be named "James Bond 007", to confuse SMERSH. He also creates a rigorous programme to train male agents to ignore the charms of women. Moneypenny recruits "Coop", a karate expert who begins training to resist seductive women: he also meets an exotic agent known as the Detainer.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
59. She is an excellent actress. Not hard to look at, either.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 11:33 PM
Dec 2014

Look like she is giving Craig a close shave.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
16. Just out of curiosity.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:22 PM
Dec 2014

Has Rush ever been happy about anything? I do not follow him, only see posts here when he is in a rage. So, curious. Can you tell me if he has ever been happy about anything?

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
17. I doubt that will happen
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:23 PM
Dec 2014

A good looking black James Bond can be a real ladies' man just like a white man, but...well...I'm not sure you could say the same thing about a gay Bond.

Initech

(100,103 posts)
20. Blow it out your ass, Rush.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:27 PM
Dec 2014

Still complaining? Then there's a great group of like minded individuals you can join. They wear white robes and preach on Sundays. I also hear that they are recruiting new members.

MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
22. I don't like Elba as Bond
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:31 PM
Dec 2014

Of course, that's because I think he's too good for the part. It would be like Benedict Cumberbatch in the last Star Trek film. Cumberbatch, and I assume Elba, would do great, but it seems like a waste of time and effort for such a great actor.

That being said, Idris Elba as James Bond would definitely rewrite the role in terms of cool. I'm picturing a suave, less frustrated Luther with actual resources at his back. You know, maybe it's not such a bad idea after all!

madokie

(51,076 posts)
24. I'll have to kick and rec anything that gets pedoboy's panties all bunched up
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:32 PM
Dec 2014

He is NOT a MAN, he might be a male but a man he goddamn sure isn't. I know it didn't say anything about him being a man but I still feel like I needed to type that.

fuck'em with a rusty wire brush up one side of his anus and down the other. He is responsible for a lot of the problems we have in this country in the fact of the shit he spews day in and day out.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
27. Rush, it is racist for you to breathe. I dont mean as in you need to die, i mean that if you are
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:34 PM
Dec 2014

conscious and breathing you are being a racist.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
32. Please. 007 and James Bond is a code name. It has been true for all of them.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:41 PM
Dec 2014

Yes. The next agent with the code 007 and fake name James Bond could obviously be black.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
38. Racist pigs are alive and thriving in 2014.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:54 PM
Dec 2014

So much of this country still lives in the 19th century.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
42. In honor of his savvy, skill, & GQ handsome-ness, the next James Bond should be played by
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 09:26 PM
Dec 2014

BARACK OBAMA..
Hahaa Rushbulb!!

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
45. So does Rush have a problem with Miss Moneypenny now being Black?
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 09:36 PM
Dec 2014

Because she is as of Skyfall:



The lovely Naomie Harris.

Brilliant casting and role development IMHO.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
46. Felix Leiter was a blonde Texan. Jack Lord and most actors whp played him were not.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 10:20 PM
Dec 2014

M was male. Judi Dench certainly is not.

Rush needs to be outraged about something or he couldn't fan the flames of the idiots, I mean his listener;s hate.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
47. He's still around and on the air?
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 10:21 PM
Dec 2014

He's irrelevant now. Even the wingers I know haven't mentioned him in years.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
51. Being a fictional character, he can be changed around Rushbo
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 10:30 PM
Dec 2014

What an idiot. He's trying to create a reality of a fictional character.

I bet it bugs him to have black actors play Hamlet, too.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
52. More crap from this racist, misogynist demagogue? Feeling left out, Ignoramus?
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 10:33 PM
Dec 2014
Rush is the enemy of all good people and things in the world.




 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
56. He's never heard the "James Bond is a code name" theory?
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 10:52 PM
Dec 2014

Besides, the best, most-believable Scottish character ever conceived was a black man!

DBoon

(22,397 posts)
62. I believe Rush Limbaugh is an entirely fictional character
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 12:18 AM
Dec 2014

I look forward to an African American actor playing him in the near future.

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
63. Saw this comment on Gawker.
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 12:37 AM
Dec 2014

Thought is would be timely here at DU

If Al Sharpton would gain back some weight, he should play Limbaugh in the made-for-TV biopic, just to see Rush's aorta burst.
 

1step

(380 posts)
70. Maybe this latest rage will do the trick for Rush
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 01:48 AM
Dec 2014

He's been on the air way too long, anyway. Should have been fired long ago. Maybe this does it.

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