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American Management Explained. This Guy Nails It. (Original Post) geardaddy Dec 2014 OP
Please. Everyone knows that private enterprise is SO much more efficient than government. randome Dec 2014 #1
Spot on, randome. geardaddy Dec 2014 #2
Doesn't need to be a large corporation. Rex Dec 2014 #8
K&R Fumesucker Dec 2014 #3
Sounds Like "New Dem Party" fredamae Dec 2014 #4
I've worked in corporations my entire life... smirkymonkey Dec 2014 #5
Been that way at pretty much every company I worked for the past 30 years Populist_Prole Dec 2014 #6
Yes! geardaddy Dec 2014 #7
I think it's an MBA mindset Populist_Prole Dec 2014 #13
Um..... ProfessorGAC Dec 2014 #19
Chasing The Metric ProfessorGAC Dec 2014 #17
Well said Populist_Prole Dec 2014 #18
Amazing and profound and true. calimary Dec 2014 #9
I worked in big corporations for 20 years NJCher Dec 2014 #10
That not only hits the bull's eye, hifiguy Dec 2014 #11
But the Japanese executives ignored warnings from employees that the boat had a leak. MindPilot Dec 2014 #12
Boy HOWDY! annabanana Dec 2014 #14
This is, unhappily, LWolf Dec 2014 #15
So true, so true. lpbk2713 Dec 2014 #16
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
1. Please. Everyone knows that private enterprise is SO much more efficient than government.
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 02:08 PM
Dec 2014


And by 'everyone' I mean everyone who has never worked a day for a large corporation.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
8. Doesn't need to be a large corporation.
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:35 PM
Dec 2014

I've seen small businesses micromanage their way into bankruptcy.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
6. Been that way at pretty much every company I worked for the past 30 years
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:24 PM
Dec 2014

It really didn't matter how financially well or poorly they were doing either; it's just cultural.

Another common theme I've noticed is the use of silly metrics to show performance on the part of middle management ( and by lower management to appease the middle ). The stats themselves regarding whatever are supposed to be ancillary but always seemed to end up having a life of their own and seemed to eclipse the real purpose of why we're there. Lots of abstract bullshit. "Do what looks good for Mr XYZ now even if it makes things worse later for somebody else...that's his problem".

Micromangement pisses me off too, but what really drives me up a wall is a seeming overnight decision to double down ( or triple down ) on micromanagement. Sometimes I ( we ) can't get anything done because we constantly have to stop and explain the situation or provide constant updates to several people who seemingly never talk to each other.

As I get more weary and cynical I'm afraid it's going to get even harder for me to cope till retirement.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
13. I think it's an MBA mindset
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 07:21 PM
Dec 2014

I've read that it's central point with "business" types that one can run any business regardless of any background because it's all just about financialization and metrics, and where EVERYthing has to be measured/quantified, even in nebulous cases or where physics intervene.

Assholes; every last one of them.

ProfessorGAC

(65,051 posts)
19. Um.....
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 09:40 AM
Dec 2014

....i have an MBA. And we just agreed on this very same topic. Keep that broad brush in a safe place, prole.

ProfessorGAC

(65,051 posts)
17. Chasing The Metric
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:31 AM
Dec 2014

I could not agree more. Then you have people with MBO's attached to the metric, while those that don't have that goal have others that are not compatible. Ends up multple people chasing different metrics, none of which are aligned and are only tangentially indicative of corporate success.

NJCher

(35,675 posts)
10. I worked in big corporations for 20 years
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 05:06 PM
Dec 2014

The first half of my career, and I never could figure out how any of them made any money.

Has to be the biggest scam going.



Cher

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
11. That not only hits the bull's eye,
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 05:22 PM
Dec 2014

it blows it into atomic subcomponents. Absolutely frikkin' perfect.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
12. But the Japanese executives ignored warnings from employees that the boat had a leak.
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 05:36 PM
Dec 2014

The North Koreans--who were not only not in the race, but never even made a movie about it--claimed victory by default when the Japanese boat sank.

Seriously I've worked for a Japanese company...from a management perspective, there is not much difference. The Japanese winning the race in this scenario would be pure dumb luck, not management expertise. The reality is the race would be over by the time the Japanese executives finally decided on a cutesy name for their boat.

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