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Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 12:56 PM Dec 2014

Let's practice not being outraged: The Senate Drone Report of 2019

This isn't like the torture report. It simply isn't. And when Engelhardt calls the drone attacks part of a war for terror, not on terror, he's just wrong. The drone attacks were all justified because, because, because, well, you know.

http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175936/

The Senate Drone Report of 2019
Looking Back on Washington’s War on Terror
By Tom Engelhardt


It was December 6, 2019, three years into a sagging Clinton presidency and a bitterly divided Congress. That day, the 500-page executive summary of the Senate Intelligence Committee’s long fought-over, much-delayed, heavily redacted report on the secret CIA drone wars and other American air campaigns in the 18-year-long war on terror was finally released. That day, committee chairman Ron Wyden (D-OR) took to the Senate floor, amid the warnings of his Republican colleagues that its release might “inflame” America’s enemies leading to violence across the Greater Middle East, and said:

“Over the past couple of weeks, I have gone through a great deal of introspection about whether to delay the release of this report to a later time. We are clearly in a period of turmoil and instability in many parts of the world. Unfortunately, that's going to continue for the foreseeable future, whether this report is released or not. There may never be the 'right' time to release it. The instability we see today will not be resolved in months or years. But this report is too important to shelve indefinitely. The simple fact is that the drone and air campaigns we have launched and pursued these last 18 years have proven to be a stain on our values and on our history.”

Though it was a Friday afternoon, normally a dead zone for media attention, the response was instant and stunning. As had happened five years earlier with the committee’s similarly fought-over report on torture, it became a 24/7 media event. The “revelations” from the report poured out to a stunned nation. There were the CIA’s own figures on the hundreds of children in the backlands of Pakistan and Yemen killed by drone strikes against “terrorists” and “militants.” There were the “double-tap strikes” in which drones returned after initial attacks to go after rescuers of those buried in rubble or to take out the funerals of those previously slain. There were the CIA’s own statistics on the stunning numbers of unknown villagers killed for every significant and known figure targeted and finally taken out (1,147 dead in Pakistan for 41 men specifically targeted). There were the unexpected internal Agency discussions of the imprecision of the robotic weapons always publicly hailed as “surgically precise” (and also of the weakness of much of the intelligence that led them to their targets). There was the joking and commonplace use of dehumanizing language (“bug splat” for those killed) by the teams directing the drones. There were the “signature strikes,” or the targeting of groups of young men of military age about whom nothing specifically was known, and of course there was the raging argument that ensued in the media over the “effectiveness” of it all (including various emails from CIA officials admitting that drone campaigns in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Yemen had proven to be mechanisms not so much for destroying terrorists as for creating new ones).

There were the new tidbits of information on the workings of the president’s “kill list” and the convening of “terror Tuesday” briefings to target specific individuals around the world. There were the insider discussions of ongoing decisions to target American citizens abroad for assassination by drone without due process of law and the revealing emails in which participants up to presidential advisers discussed how exactly to craft the exculpatory “legal” documents for those acts at the Department of Justice.

Above all, to an unsuspecting nation, there was the shocking revelation that American air power had, in the course of those years, destroyed in whole or in part at least nine wedding parties, including brides, grooms, family members, and revelers, involving the deaths of hundreds of wedding goers in at least three countries of the Greater Middle East. This revelation shocked the nation, resulting in headlines ranging from the Washington Post’s sober “Wedding Tally Revealed” to the New York Post’s “Bride and Boom!”

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3. Nothing Washington did could ever qualify as a “war crime” or even a straightforward crime because, in national security terms, our wartime capital has become a crime-free zone: Again, this is an obvious fact of our era. There can be no accountability (hence all the promotions) and especially no criminal accountability inside the national security state. While the rest of us are still in legal America, its officials are in what I’ve long called “post-legal” America and in that state, neither torture (to the point of death), nor kidnapping and assassination, nor destroying evidence of criminal activity, perjury, or the setting up of an extralegal prison system are crimes. The only possible crime in national security Washington is whistleblowing. On this, too, the evidence is in and the results speak for themselves. The post-9/11 moment has proven to be an eternal “get out of jail free card” for the officials of two administrations and the national security state.

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Let's practice not being outraged: The Senate Drone Report of 2019 (Original Post) Karmadillo Dec 2014 OP
What this article suggests is not likely.The US has had an ongoing dialogue with the UN about Drones stevenleser Dec 2014 #1
Thank You! That warms the cockles of my heart. delrem Dec 2014 #2
Bravo! A very sad prediction. countryjake Dec 2014 #3
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
1. What this article suggests is not likely.The US has had an ongoing dialogue with the UN about Drones
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:13 PM
Dec 2014

and the UN has been continuously investigating and issuing reports, for instance

http://justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Special-Rapporteur-Rapporteur-Emmerson-Drones-2014.pdf

Here is some of what the UN's recent reports on Drones found, this does not sound like grounds for war crimes accusations:

1. Civilian casualty rates
Afghanistan

25. In the interim report the Special Rapporteur noted the assessment of the United
Nations Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA) that up to the end of 2012, confirmed drone
strikes appeared to have inflicted significantly lower levels of civilian casualties than aerial
attacks carried out by other air platforms. This is no longer the position. Figures for 2013
indicate that drone strikes accounted for almost 40% of the total number of civilian
fatalities inflicted as the result of aerial attacks by pro-Government forces. In its 2013
report, Afghanistan Annual Report on Protection of Civilians in Armed Conflict, UNAMA
records 59 civilian casualties during 2013 as the result of 19 confirmed drone strikes
(comprising 45 fatalities and 14 non-fatal injuries). As compared with 2012, this represents
a three-fold increase in the number of recorded civilian casualties from the use of drones by
ISAF. It also represents a significant increase in the number of civilian casualties from
drone strikes as a percentage of the overall number of civilian casualties from aerial
operations (including attacks by manned fixed and rotary blade aircraft).

Pakistan
26. In his interim report the Special Rapporteur noted that there had been a marked drop
in reported civilian casualties from attacks by remotely piloted aircraft in the Federally
Administered Tribal Areas of Pakistan during 2012 (both in absolute terms and as a
percentage of overall fatalities), a trend that appeared to have continued during the first half
of 2013 . He welcomed, in that context, the August 2013 statement of the United States
Secretary of State to the effect that there was a clearly defined timeline for ending drone
strikes in Pakistan . Figures to the end of 2013 confirm that there has been a significant deescalation
in the number of recorded drone strikes in Pakistan. The total number of
reported strikes for the year was 27, down from a peak of 128 in 2010. For the first time in
nine years, there were no reports of civilian casualties during 2013. At the time of writing
there have been no reported drone strikes during 2014, the longest pause since President
Obama took office. The current cessation in strikes coincides with peace initiatives being
pursued between the Government of Pakistan and the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan.

Yemen
27. By contrast, the frequency of reported drone strikes in Yemen has increased since
the Special Rapporteur's interim report, resulting in a significant number of reported
civilian casualties in the final weeks of 2013 . Recent estimates provided by Human Rights
Watch allege that since 2009 the United States has conducted at least 86 lethal counterterrorism
operations, using remotely piloted aircraft and other means, killing up to 500
people. The majority of those killed is believed to have been individuals with a
“continuous combat function” in Yemen's internal armed conflicts, and therefore to have
been legitimate military targets under the principles of international humanitarian law.
However, media monitoring organizations allege that between 24 and 71 civilians have
been killed in confirmed drone strikes between 2009 and 2013

delrem

(9,688 posts)
2. Thank You! That warms the cockles of my heart.
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:49 PM
Dec 2014

It's so good to hear some Christmas cheer at this time of year.
I like "double-taps", myself. It's such an efficient cleanup method.

And aren't you just enraged by NK (allegedly) hacking Sony? The swine!!

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
3. Bravo! A very sad prediction.
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 11:00 PM
Dec 2014

I only hope that it won't take five whole years for that truth to come out.

dontdronethecia.com...Bwahahahahaha!
(I haven't had the nerve yet to click on the real ciasavedlives site that they set up)

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