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marym625

(17,997 posts)
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 09:50 AM Dec 2014

Does anyone know if cops are tested for steroids?

I am sure there us some type of drug testing, whether random tests or on a regular basis. But do they specifically test for steroids?

I find it difficult to believe that all this aggression is natural in so very many. I understand an adrenaline rush. I understand anger causing a physical outlet. I don't understand, nor do I believe, that so many can be so volatile over so little in so many cases.

Don't get me wrong. I whole heartedly believe that training, attitude, racism, etc play a huge role in the unending, seemingly unprecedented, cases of police brutality. But I also think there's something more involved. And I think it's steroids.

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Does anyone know if cops are tested for steroids? (Original Post) marym625 Dec 2014 OP
Thank's for bring this up again. TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #1
Me too marym625 Dec 2014 #6
But congress (issa) is too busy holding hearings regarding steroid use in pro-baseball. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #30
Well we can't have the wrong team winning marym625 Dec 2014 #32
Win, win, win at the cost of all life on this planet Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #41
exactly! marym625 Dec 2014 #42
Some departments do, some don't. Brickbat Dec 2014 #2
They should marym625 Dec 2014 #4
Seattle police are not tested for steroids. FuzzyRabbit Dec 2014 #31
I have an alternate theory which I just posted on another thread rock Dec 2014 #3
Bad combination marym625 Dec 2014 #5
That is a good question 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #7
whoa! marym625 Dec 2014 #8
lol, that is just hilarious. Marr Dec 2014 #11
For the douche, for the douche, for the mother-fucking douche marym625 Dec 2014 #28
Steroids aren't the only drug of choice some (bad) cops seem to take meow2u3 Dec 2014 #9
Good point marym625 Dec 2014 #17
Steroid testing is expensive, so probably not jmowreader Dec 2014 #10
ah! I didn't know. marym625 Dec 2014 #18
That was my thought when Wilson said Brown "looked like a demon" KamaAina Dec 2014 #12
You mean Wilson, right? marym625 Dec 2014 #19
Yup. KamaAina Dec 2014 #25
Oh good marym625 Dec 2014 #26
Not that is excuses the behavior but maybe some of these cops are dealing with PTSD. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #13
Especially ones that were ever in the military davidn3600 Dec 2014 #14
I agree with that completely marym625 Dec 2014 #20
Should be mandatory. Iggo Dec 2014 #15
like I said up the thread a bit marym625 Dec 2014 #21
I've encountered some like that. hunter Dec 2014 #16
It's a shame marym625 Dec 2014 #22
Or donuts? Generic Brad Dec 2014 #23
That's it! marym625 Dec 2014 #24
Most have random drug testing like some other public and Historic NY Dec 2014 #27
I'm sure you are correct marym625 Dec 2014 #29
If you google "cops on steroids" there are tons of articles uncovering steroid use BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #33
The only one that looks like marym625 Dec 2014 #36
Rookie BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #39
Excellent question!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2014 #34
Darren Wilson was not. There's a link to an image of his post-shooting toxicology report .... Scuba Dec 2014 #35
I read through the entire transcript marym625 Dec 2014 #37
Who does the hiring in your town, is it by competitive test or do you have to be related to the CK_John Dec 2014 #38
Depends what contract their union negotiates. nt hack89 Dec 2014 #40

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
1. Thank's for bring this up again.
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 10:31 AM
Dec 2014

I have posted several times suggesting that some police are abusing steroids and are 'roid raging on the street.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
6. Me too
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:53 PM
Dec 2014

I think many of us think it. There's no doubt in my mind that the guy that murdered Eric Garner is a steroid abuser.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
4. They should
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:51 PM
Dec 2014

Minimally, they should immediately after any incident if at all possible. Screw this testing the victim only.

FuzzyRabbit

(1,967 posts)
31. Seattle police are not tested for steroids.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 01:54 AM
Dec 2014

My understanding is that it is in their union contract that they cannot be tested for steroids.

Steroid use by police across the country is a problem, that is for sure. From http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2011/8/5/10465/46858 :
Victor Conte, the founder of the lab known as Bay Area Lab Co-Operative, who helped numerous athletes cheat, said to AOL News that it wouldn’t surprise him if as many as a quarter of police officers were using some type of steroid drug.

From http://www.policechiefmagazine.org/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=display_arch&article_id=1512&issue_id=62008 :
" . . . growing evidence suggests a similar abuse of AASs and other performance-enhancing drugs by law enforcement professionals. Across the United States, several investigations associated with Internet pharmacies and “antiaging” clinics in association with unscrupulous physicians have revealed officers caught up in this web of illicit drug use.

Although the traditional reason for the use of AASs is to improve athletic performance, AASs also appeal to officers wanting a tactical edge or an intimidating appearance. Unlike with other forms of drug abuse, steroid users do not take their drug recreationally; on the contrary, some state they need these drugs in order to do their job effectively or improve their “job performance.” From street officers who consider themselves vulnerable to bigger, more aggressive criminals to special-assignment officers who are regularly tested for their physical abilities, officers are turning to performance-enhancing drugs such as AASs and HGH as a shortcut to improved performance. . . ."

rock

(13,218 posts)
3. I have an alternate theory which I just posted on another thread
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 12:57 PM
Dec 2014

The low pay and power ride (the job comes with a loaded gun) attract scaredy-cat, low-intelligent, asshole bullies. Of course, they could be on steroids and other drugs too!

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
11. lol, that is just hilarious.
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:52 PM
Dec 2014

He could've saved a lot of money and time by just having "I Have Manhood Issues" tattooed on his forehead.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
28. For the douche, for the douche, for the mother-fucking douche
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 01:07 AM
Dec 2014

Got more chains than Mr. T
Ad I pity the fuckwad who messes with me
'Cause I'm doin roids 'til my balls get teeny
Like Dennis Quaid in Innerspace up inside the weenie


This Party Took a Turn for the Douche :





This song works for so many things on so many levels

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
9. Steroids aren't the only drug of choice some (bad) cops seem to take
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:39 PM
Dec 2014

I wouldn't be surprised if the cops implicated in police brutality cases are alcoholic or at least have a drinking problem. Excess alcohol makes some people irrational and short-fused to say the least, and people in authority with drinking problems tend to abuse such authority.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
17. Good point
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 09:34 PM
Dec 2014

Either or both. But they should test if someone dies at their hands, they should be tested. Train, bus drivers are. Anyone in a car would be. How are they exempt?

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
12. That was my thought when Wilson said Brown "looked like a demon"
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:58 PM
Dec 2014

"Was this guy hopped up on something?"

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
13. Not that is excuses the behavior but maybe some of these cops are dealing with PTSD.
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 06:42 PM
Dec 2014

If that is the case, we need to find out and get them the help they need.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
20. I agree with that completely
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 09:37 PM
Dec 2014

But they shouldn't have been on the force at all. Should be part of the psychological testing.

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
15. Should be mandatory.
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 07:00 PM
Dec 2014

And there should be no objections from the boys in blue.

Not doing anything wrong, nothing to worry about, and like that.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
21. like I said up the thread a bit
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 09:39 PM
Dec 2014

Train engineers, bus drivers, anyone operating anything at all, a fatality happens and they're tested. Cops shouldn't be above the law.

hunter

(38,312 posts)
16. I've encountered some like that.
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 07:18 PM
Dec 2014

As a rough estimate, I'd say half of all cops are cops for all the wrong reasons, and the other half rarely speak up about that.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
22. It's a shame
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 09:41 PM
Dec 2014

Unfortunately, I think it is going to take the courage of the ones that do things right to speak up for there to be any change

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
27. Most have random drug testing like some other public and
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 12:56 AM
Dec 2014

private employers require. I sure it would turn up as it does identify substances .

Basic tests screen for amphetamines (speed, meth, ecstasy, crank, etc.), cannabinoids (marijuana, hashish), cocaine (coke or crack), opiates (heroin, morphine, opium, codeine), or phencyclidine (PCP).

Extended tests might screen for barbiturates, benzodiazepines, ethanol, hallucinogens, inhalants, or anabolic steroids.

Tests may involve urine samples, saliva tests, hair samples, sweat patches, breathalyzers, or blood tests.

Anabolic steriods cannot be used w/o a prescription.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
29. I'm sure you are correct
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 01:17 AM
Dec 2014

But random tests that don't screen for steroids and not testing when something happens, is inexcusable. Anyone walking around with a gun and a badge should be tested, just like so very many other public and private industries.

If Zimmerman (I know he isn't a cop but he still should have been tested) Wilson, Flanery, Pantaleo, still unnamed cop that shot Kajieme Powell, etc had been tested, we might, just possibly, already have come to some agreement and more new laws passed besides just how many are murdered.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
33. If you google "cops on steroids" there are tons of articles uncovering steroid use
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 03:34 AM
Dec 2014

But nothing is ever done about it. Cops who use it claim it gives them an advantage over criminals. But plenty of times I've gotten the veiny, roided up cop giving me orders. They have a hair trigger and now they know they can kill civilians with impunity (because the DA will make sure there is never an indictment).

I mean, who would ever think these cops are roided up? They just work out a lot!




https://www.popularresistance.org/police-violence-cops-on-steroids/

marym625

(17,997 posts)
36. The only one that looks like
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 10:50 AM
Dec 2014

Perhaps, maybe, just a slight possibility, he's not taking steroids, is the guy in the first row, far right.

Scary.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
39. Rookie
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 11:28 AM
Dec 2014

They'll whip that boy into shape. The cops are also the dealers in their own locker rooms. Looks like it's mandatory on this squad. Sheesh. I know a few firefighters and they workout all the time, it's one of the things that attracted them to the job (they also do forest fires) because they like being physical. Plus, they say if you're too slow, you're dead. They are incredibly strong and fit, but not a single one looks like the picture. That's for intimidation. That's why those "men" are attracted to the job with the gun and the shield that lets them live out their Rambo fantasies. The recruitment targets violent, anti-social people to join the police force by using the same tactics of our military.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
35. Darren Wilson was not. There's a link to an image of his post-shooting toxicology report ....
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:39 AM
Dec 2014

... that's been posted on DU.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
37. I read through the entire transcript
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 10:52 AM
Dec 2014

I don't recall a toxicology report for Wilson. I will have to check again. Thanks!

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
38. Who does the hiring in your town, is it by competitive test or do you have to be related to the
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 11:18 AM
Dec 2014

local town mayor or the car dealer that provides police cars.

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