Dystopian picture from the mall of america...

[Jesus Malverde]

[Kalidurga]

1. I keep telling people about the dystopia we live in

most of them don't believe me unless they are people of color or in the theater. Some of my professors as well.

[Action_Patrol]

2. Dystopian?

This is private property. The mall has every legal right to say this. They have no obligation to support or host the protest.

This has nothing to do with my support of the protestors rights to voice their opinions. The legality is that if the mall owners don't want you protesting in their building then you are trespassing.

[Jesus Malverde]

3. .

[Action_Patrol]

4. Whatever

My apologies that facts are so screwball to you.
I don't support the mall but they have every right to not host it.

[Fawke Em]

5. Maybe the poster above was giving you an example of dystopia?

[Jesus Malverde]

6. Good one...nt

[Action_Patrol]

8. Honest question to you

What more did you expect from the carnival of capitalism that is the Mall of America?

[el_bryanto]

9. So if the NRA wanted to protest in your house you would let them?

Or would you kick them out?

Bryant

[Jesus Malverde]

13. depends if they brought snacks.

Ya'll getting caught up in the legalese and missing the jumbotron of a meme.

[Action_Patrol]

16. I apologize.

I did enjoy the jumbotron. Didn't mean to sully your thread with legalese.
It's a flaw I have.
Honestly. My apologies for not enjoying how ludicrous it all is.

[Orsino]

17. That the mall is within its rights here doesn't make the picture less dystopian.

The Mall of America, as a stand-in for capitalism itself, shut down at the height of Money's favorite season by people protesting one facet of the system? The bland corporate phrasing of the warning?

Yeah, this is the stuff of some great futurist fiction, and it's happening now.

[Action_Patrol]

19. I know I know

forgive me, my life clock crystal ran out a long time ago.

[Orsino]

20. Excellent point.

What we're living here may turn out to be really cheesy futurist fiction.

[nichomachus]

22. Private property

That received hundreds of thousand of dollars of taxpayer money through infrastructure improvements and tax breaks. The "private property" argument is bullshit. Just like the sports stadium that pretend to be private property when they were financed by taxpayer money.

When they pay the taxpayers back in full, with interest, I'll buy the "private property" argument.

[Action_Patrol]

24. Take it up with

The mall and the state. Or don't.

[jen1980]

27. No

They are a public place and have no right to lie and say that the Constitution doesn't exist. It doesn't exist to their kind, but they have no right to shove their views down our throats.

[Action_Patrol]

34. "No"?

Believe whatever you want. They claim private property and the state believes them, has no law on the books that says they aren't.
This really isn't semantics, it's just something you don't agree with.

[marmar]

7. Yikes.

[951-Riverside]

10. Holy shit! That is scary but...

First of all the mall is open to the public (ie a public space), Secondly unless they close the entire mall and ask EVERYONE to lease they cannot prevent a certain group from entering the mall without first obtaining a restraining order.

In states like California it is legal for people to petition and solicit in front of stores even when its located on private property.

[X_Digger]

25. CA & NJ are the only two states where 'malls' are considered like 'commons' of yesterday.

The other 48? Get yer ass off private property.

[earthside]

31. Bock v. Westminster Mall - Colorado - U.S. Supreme Court Decisions

Explanation here:

http://www.davelippman.com/LawoftheMall.html

[Javaman]

11. followed by...

"now go out and be True Americans and buy something! That's the only real way to show patriotism!"

[ileus]

12. Is the mall private property?

Reads like it must be.

[Jesus Malverde]

14. yeah they could serve em all with no trespassing warrants...nt

[Action_Patrol]

15. The mall's statement from local Kare11

"The Mall of America released a statement late Saturday afternoon saying, "While we wish we could have avoided the inconvenience and disruption for our guests and stores, safety was our top priority. Our goal was a peaceful, quick resolution without incident. With the exception of approximately 12 arrests by Bloomington Police, we believe we were successful in accomplishing that goal. We have a longstanding policy banning political demonstrations and protests on our private property. That policy is in place to protect the safety of all Mall of America guests. The organizers of today's protest were well aware of that policy and the potential consequences for willfully violating that policy."

[davidn3600]

18. If the mall is private property, they have a right to ask people to leave

Private owners for the most part have been very tolerant of protesters up to now. But eventually they are going to start growing tired of it and start issuing trespass warnings.

[nichomachus]

23. If the mall has received hundreds of thousands of dollars

In taxpayer subsidies, it is not "private property." That's a nonsense argument.

[X_Digger]

26. Bullshit. Unless the government bought the title, it's still private property.

Do people who receive public assistance lose ownership of their homes? How about people in subsidized housing? Do they lose property rights, too?

What a silly position to take.

[daleanime]

29. Then, why am I not getting any of these funds?

[X_Digger]

30. Subsidies? You likely are. Child tax credits. Mortgage interest tax credits.. solar power credits..

...

Others? Have you applied?

[Nye Bevan]

28. And if someone has benefited by thousands of dollars from the mortgage interest deduction,

their home is not really "private property", and they have limited rights to prevent protests etc. from taking place in their living room.

[uponit7771]

21. AMEN AND AMEN!!! This is MORE than just about race!!! People don't a country that murders and tortur

... with impunity!!!

[daredtowork]

32. Signed "Goldstein" nt.

[Ryan Fitzomething]

33. "Walking in the aftermath of an Armageddon that has passed, unnoticed"

Sorry, but I can't find the source of the quote. This doesn't render it any less truthful.

[Capt. Obvious]

35. Your hatred of capitalism is noted

[MisterP]

36. "It took one hundredth of a second only; I saw thousands of hands arise 'opposed' and fall back"

[Agschmid]

37. I get what you mean but I'm not sure I'd call it a dystopian image.

If anything I think it's a postivr thing to see people protest, and in general that sign didn't do much to end the protest.

I don't think you are wrong by any means but I'm not sure dystopian is the right word?