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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 06:36 AM Dec 2014

The FBI told their story about North Korea attacking Sony. Before we retaliate, read what they didn’

The government blames North Korea of the Axis of Evil for the attack on Sony, a claim quite like the bogus claims of the past we so credulously believed. No matter how often they lie to us, Americans believe what the government tells us. They lie, we believe, their lies are exposed — rinse, repeat. It makes us easy to govern, incapable of self-government, and quite different than our skeptical unruly forebearers. We can do better. This is a great day to begin. Read this and decide for yourself. This is the most complete collection of information I’ve found on this story.

http://fabiusmaximus.com/2014/12/20/rebuttal-holes-fbi-north-korea-sony-attack-74873/

Walking it back

President Obama has done his best to tamp down fury at North Korea for hacking Sony--"I don't think it was an act of war," he said Sunday on CNN, but "cybervandalism"--but to find true skepticism about North Korea's role in the attack, you have to turn to the professional hacking and anti-hacking community.


The anti-hacker community isn't ruling out North Korea. Many also acknowledge that the FBI may have stronger evidence against North Korea that it's chosen not to make public. It's also proper to note that disdain for the FBI--indeed, for the government in general--runs deep in this community.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-these-experts-still-dont-buy-20141221-column.html
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The FBI told their story about North Korea attacking Sony. Before we retaliate, read what they didn’ (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 OP
The media is going full monty with this mess this morning. I'm having a case of deja vu. nc4bo Dec 2014 #1
They don't even mention the absurdity of Moliere Dec 2014 #2
More questions than answers from the FBI...the lazy media does not care to ask them. Ignoring the Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #4
They lie. We lie. And around and around it goes and no one wants to show us the beef. No logical Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #3
Yep. Just sit down and have a pull on the kool aid jug. elias49 Dec 2014 #5
call me crazy but... Javaman Dec 2014 #6

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
1. The media is going full monty with this mess this morning. I'm having a case of deja vu.
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:27 AM
Dec 2014

Quite a few incidences of the media running with a headline where all the truth isn't known or doesn't fit with the agenda of whomever wants a particular message reported and specific action taken.

Irresponsible to say the least.

Moliere

(285 posts)
2. They don't even mention the absurdity of
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:48 AM
Dec 2014

Transferring 100TB in an undetectable fashion (ie drip not burst) and into NK's internet which I am sure isn't blazing. That transfer would take months

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
4. More questions than answers from the FBI...the lazy media does not care to ask them. Ignoring the
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 09:00 AM
Dec 2014

fact that theatre chains, one in particular, Regal Entertainment, were the ones caving, has been purposely not mentioned...and what do the hackers have in them all to make them be their slaves?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
3. They lie. We lie. And around and around it goes and no one wants to show us the beef. No logical
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:59 AM
Dec 2014

explanation puts the NK government behind this.

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
5. Yep. Just sit down and have a pull on the kool aid jug.
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 09:11 AM
Dec 2014

But N Korea is so easy to hate! The only people who have a problem with this bull shit are professional IT folks.
Funny that.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
6. call me crazy but...
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 11:32 AM
Dec 2014

how is hacking a Japanese corporation an attack on our freedoms?

And last time I checked sony is a corporation and not a public or government entity, so how is this an attack on us?

oh that's right, corporations are people, my friend, and we as a nation must pay fealty to them.

we live in one truly bizarre nation with some truly bizarre priorities.

once again the US fights the battles for the corporations.

and one other thing: sony is a technology corporation. Their security fucked up, not the U.S.'s. Let's be clear about that.

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