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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAnd a second Times comment, to a different article on the same subject (cop killings)
I guess the editors like this one!
Mark Kessinger
4 Hours Ago
Much of the criticism of the Mayor de Blasio has centered on his public discussion of a painful conversation he and his wife had with their mixed race, teenage son about the need for extreme caution in any dealings he might have with police, suggesting that talking about this discussion in public was somehow not "supportive" of the NYPD. This is totally off the mark, and in a number of ways.
The mayor has a responsibility to support BOTH the police department and the citizens of New York. But "support" in the context of the job of mayor does NOT mean toeing the PBA's line in every instance. It is not the mayor's job to 'support' a police department's dysfunctional dealings with a particular community. And support for the NYPD is not the samet hing as endorsing its shortcomings. As a leader, where there is an identifiable problem between police and a particular community -- and there clearly IS such a problem here -- support means identifying the problem and taking steps to remedy it. And that is exactly what the mayor has done. Better relations between the police and those they serve are in the interest of BOTH the police and the public.
Besides all of that, though, many of those who now criticize the mayor for even having that conversation with his son are the same folks who, just a week ago, were complaining that parents of black kids don't teach their kids to be sufficiently respectful.of law enforcement. Seems to me that is exactly what the Mayor was doing with his son. So which is it?
4 Hours Ago
Much of the criticism of the Mayor de Blasio has centered on his public discussion of a painful conversation he and his wife had with their mixed race, teenage son about the need for extreme caution in any dealings he might have with police, suggesting that talking about this discussion in public was somehow not "supportive" of the NYPD. This is totally off the mark, and in a number of ways.
The mayor has a responsibility to support BOTH the police department and the citizens of New York. But "support" in the context of the job of mayor does NOT mean toeing the PBA's line in every instance. It is not the mayor's job to 'support' a police department's dysfunctional dealings with a particular community. And support for the NYPD is not the samet hing as endorsing its shortcomings. As a leader, where there is an identifiable problem between police and a particular community -- and there clearly IS such a problem here -- support means identifying the problem and taking steps to remedy it. And that is exactly what the mayor has done. Better relations between the police and those they serve are in the interest of BOTH the police and the public.
Besides all of that, though, many of those who now criticize the mayor for even having that conversation with his son are the same folks who, just a week ago, were complaining that parents of black kids don't teach their kids to be sufficiently respectful.of law enforcement. Seems to me that is exactly what the Mayor was doing with his son. So which is it?
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And a second Times comment, to a different article on the same subject (cop killings) (Original Post)
markpkessinger
Dec 2014
OP
The PBA are accustomed to being supported, no matter how much corruption they engage
sabrina 1
Dec 2014
#5
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)1. Great comment
though irony is lost on the thugs in blue that are fomenting war against the people who pay their bills.
okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)2. K & R nt
Cha
(297,240 posts)3. Very good catch.. thanks Mark
"Besides all of that, though, many of those who now criticize the mayor for even having that conversation with his son are the same folks who, just a week ago, were complaining that parents of black kids don't teach their kids to be sufficiently respectful.of law enforcement. Seems to me that is exactly what the Mayor was doing with his son. So which is it?"
markpkessinger
(8,399 posts)7. Thanks! n/t
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sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)5. The PBA are accustomed to being supported, no matter how much corruption they engage
in, by Republican Mayors, or Mayors who change parties to buy elections as often as they change clothes, Bloomberg.
Bloomberg referred to the NYPD as HIS army.
There has been so much corruption in that organization it's hard to understand why the entire force has not been disbanded, as others have, and completely restructured as a Civilian PD rather than the 'army' they believe themselves to be.
De Blasio should not give in to the PBA but they are a powerful organization. He will need a lot of support to stop them from undermining him the way they do any Democratic Mayor.
markpkessinger
(8,399 posts)6. Exactly! n/t
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)8. what's "PBA"?
markpkessinger
(8,399 posts)9. Patrolmen's Benevolent Association . . .
. . . the police union.