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tabatha

(18,795 posts)
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 03:59 PM Apr 2012

Robert Reich: Supreme Court says corps are people, so

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Supreme Court says corps are people, so will Wal-Mart get 10 yrs in prison for illegal bribes, and News Corp 25 yrs for illegal hacking?

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Marr

(20,317 posts)
1. Good question. Unfortunately, it's facetious.
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 04:00 PM
Apr 2012

Corporations are only people when that's convenient for big investors.

lector

(95 posts)
5. View profile Corporations are only people when that's convenient for big investors.
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 05:28 PM
Apr 2012

And cheap politicians.

ashling

(25,771 posts)
11. Why shouldn't these corporate "persons" be subject to the penalties of criminal
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 08:23 PM
Apr 2012

law as real persons? And I assure you that question was not facetious.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
12. That's literally the reason corporations are people: civil and criminal liability
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 09:33 AM
Apr 2012

Joint stock corporations have been since their invention in the 16th century "fictional people" for the express purpose of being able to drag them into court. It's a trade off: the company itself becomes liable under law (legal personhood is the only way that can happen) but the liability of the investors are limited to their investments. My point is Citizens United was far from the first time that corporations were considered "people"; that's been the theory behind corporations all along. The novel doctrine in CU was that the rights of these fictional people were considered more important than the government's obligation to prevent corruption or the appearance of corruption, which was the governing doctrine since at least Buckley v. Valeo.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
2. A good point.
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 04:08 PM
Apr 2012

Whenever a corporation is caught breaking laws, individual humans seem the ones most frequently reported prosecuted.

cstanleytech

(26,299 posts)
7. If you are refering to mexico and the UK isssues its out of the courts jurisdiction isnt it?
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 05:48 PM
Apr 2012

But anyway my question regarding it is, if the scotus really believes in the ruling that corporations are people then shouldnt they throw out the laws Gov Walker has signed against the unions? Since using the logic of the scotus they must be people to with free speech and all the other laws and protections everyone else has in this country.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
8. I believe that they
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 06:56 PM
Apr 2012

also violated US laws against foreign bribery with the payments made in Mexico, so as a US Corporation they may be accountable, depending upon the investigation if there is any.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
14. Paying bribes in a foreign country is illegal in the US
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 12:09 PM
Apr 2012

US law makes it illegal for US corporations to pay bribes outside the US to foreign governments.

As for the UK, there's mounting evidence that Murdoch's empire hacked phones in the US as well as the UK.

shouldnt they throw out the laws Gov Walker has signed against the unions? Since using the logic of the scotus they must be people to with free speech and all the other laws and protections everyone else has in this country.

Silly liberal! The Constitution is whatever Scalia says it is.

MurrayDelph

(5,299 posts)
9. I've been saying that since Citizen's United
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 08:00 PM
Apr 2012

If a corporation is person, arrest it.

Place a cease-and-desist order, with the warning that violating it is tantamount to admitting to being an accessory after the fact.

I have mentioned to my Senator, who looked at it like "well, that's interesting"

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
13. It seems they are only "people" in matters of election funding
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 12:08 PM
Apr 2012

otherwise a merger would be a 'marriage'

and an IPO would be prostitution.

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