Question: Is the CIA trustworthy enough

[Ichingcarpenter]

that they would not not do a false flag operation to sway public opinion on their righteousness as an institution after the torture memo?

[RKP5637]

1. Has the CIA ever been trustworthy? I wouldn't put anything past them! n/t

[Rex]

2. Trust? The CIA?

JFK trusted the CIA up until the Bay of Pigs and look where it got him. I'd trust them to run drugs for a warlord. I'd trust them to overthrow a democratically elected government.

[Jackpine Radical]

3. You really think you need to ask this question around here?

Remember, I grew up in the Northwoods. (if the reference isn't too obscure)

[Ichingcarpenter]

6. You know me..... I'm just asking a question

and asking people to pay attention to their reality and the reality that's presented to them and the painful reality....

[NightWatcher]

4. We should waterboard them (185 times) and ask if they are planning something.

If that doesn't work, up their ass with a feeding tube until we get the answers that we want.


Good enough for the goose....

[grasswire]

5. I thought of that too. nt

[CJCRANE]

7. The guy who hacked GWBush's and other bigwigs' emails

said there's already one planned for next year.

He's now languishing in a Romanian prison.

Note: he's a full-on "Illuminati" conspiracy theorist so take that with a bucket of salt.

[SamKnause]

11. Interesting.

Do you have a name or link so I can do some research ???

[CJCRANE]

12. Guccifer. Here's a link to a NYT report about an interview they did with him:

The Man Behind the Hacking: Talking to Guccifer

http://www.nytimes.com/times-insider/2014/11/21/the-man-behind-the-hacking-talking-to-guccifer/?_r=0

[SamKnause]

13. Thank you so very much.

Have a pleasant and safe day.

[TheNutcracker]

8. answer: no

[Ichingcarpenter]

9. No... because it would be too obvious?

or the CIA doesn't do false flag operations?

[SamKnause]

10. The CIA is a terrorist organization.

The have wreaked havoc over the entire globe.

I have zero trust in the CIA.

I have zero trust in the U.S. government.

I have zero trust in the Supreme Court.

I have zero trust in our two tier justice system.

I have zero trust in our brutal racist penal system.

I have zero trust in our military brass.

I have zero trust in the Pentagon.

I have zero trust in the NSA.

I have zero trust in the DEA.

I have zero trust in Wall Street.

I have zero trust in 'Free Trade' agreements.

I have zero trust in the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.

I have zero trust in the oil and gas corporations.

I have zero trust in the SEC.

They have earned my zero trust.

[2naSalit]

14. I think

the "gig is up".

for those still wearing the rose colored scales over their eyes, I don't know what to say except, ignorance could be bliss.

[SamKnause]

15. Indeed it is.

The Internet is an awesome tool !!!!!!!!

You Tube is a treasure trove of knowledge.

I became disabled in 2007.

I spend the majority of my time blogging, researching, watching documentaries, listening to lectures, listening to debates, following politics, and researching the history of the U.S.

The truth can be brutal.

My 41 year old niece has started to follow in my footsteps.

She got the Democracy Now app for her cell phone 2 weeks.

She was so excited.

She loves Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzalez.

She has watched several documentaries at my house.

She called her Senators today and told them to SHUT IT DOWN !!!!

I am so proud of her.

I do not come from a politically active family.

My mother and father voted, but I do not remember the importance of politics being discussed when I was growing up.

[2naSalit]

17. I grew up

in the northern colonial states wher politics is learned with the initial language spoken in the home. My parents were of different parties, politically, and they argued politics openly.

I also was witness to many now historical events of the previous century and have been paying attention since 1960. I have little to say about what we are now seeing except that I could smell this coming down the pike for over a decade, but I won't go so far as to say. I told anyone so... maybe "I knew it would come to this" would be the way to express what I feel now. Glad I'm getting old so I won't feel so cheated when my "day on the calendar" arrives. I don't think I want to see what else will come to being but until the "magic rainbow day" I'm doomed to be here, regardless of how much I participate, I don't think it will matter much, though I will participate because it is my duty as a citizen. If only the other citizens could understand this.

[Octafish]

16. When they spy on their bosses, there's a problem for democracy.

When they work to undermine their bosses, there's a problem for the republic.

[MisterP]

18. there's plenty of agents dedicated to nothing but propaganda (remember "the Sandinistas are

burning Miskito?!" and it was actually a photo of uplanders killed by St. Somoza?)

BUT this is what we kept worrying about throughout Iraq, that they'd "find" WMDs--but what they did find came after the first formal pullout, 11 years too late, and only proved once and for all that the whole case for war was a fraud!

the wet-work experts are ideologues, not experts in any region: they have literally no idea about the countries they're operating in or the people they're working with, just jaunting from Manila to Phnom Penh to Saigon to Athens to Tegucigalpa to Baghdad and assuming that there's one programme that can be applied to each of these interventions, with the names swapped out mad-libs style and different theological dogwhistles: the most terrifying thing about the brainstorming session where they proposed to drop leaflets in Cuba and then send smoke bombs so a submarine could project a fake Second Coming so they'd overthrow Castro isn't that they were thinking the Cubans were that stupid, but that they thought it could work

only half of CIA ops have even succeeded, and none of them have secured any of their goals past 5 years: the destabilization may keep oil off the market and keep agents and gunrunners in business as each crisis response creates a bigger crisis down the road, but basically they're pretty bad at their jobs on the macro-level: they're good at stovepiping and propaganda, everything else they often whiff real hard on