For fuck's sake..one of the SS guys has a bumper sticker for TX to secede

[rainbow4321]

First, let me start off by saying I live down here..this is not an overall bashing of our state...this is about the secede mentality of a moron.


a) He had 20+ year career with the federal government. He benefited from every aspect of that job (salary, benefits, etc..._)
b) He is a second generation SS...his father was also a long time SS. It's splashed all over our local Dallas paper that the father raised the family here...and they live in a very well off part of the city, attend a well off, well known local Baptist megachurch. Which means as a kid growing up , he and his family benefited from the job security, pay, benefits from the federal government.

And yet....................................

"Chaney has two college-age sons and drives a pickup truck with bumper stickers supporting the radical call for Texas to secede from the United States".



http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/dirty_little_secret_6QBSk49hscdXUEwqchjxJK


I'd give the link to the local paper but it is behind a paywall and you wouldn't be able to read it unless you subscribe.

[calimary]

1. Don't you just love it?

Sucking off the system just fine while you're plotting its demise and preaching how horrible and useless and undesirable it is. Lovely.

[malaise]

2. What's more frightening is that he is responsible for the life

of the President of the United States and several other political figures.

A clean up is needed from top to bottom.

[calimary]

5. Yeah, no kidding!!!!!

[RKP5637]

8. Yep, like the ones that tell government to stay out of their Social Security and

Medicare.

[tabasco]

63. LOL n/t

[kentuck]

3. Hmmm...I thought all the Secret Service were Democrats ?

I guess not?

[toddwv]

9. The point...

is that he is advocating rebellion against the federal government. That is not exactly someone who I would want protecting the President of the federal government.

It seems like that is something that would've came up in his security clearance review.

Sounds like the SS needs a DEEP review starting with the Bush appointee at the top.

[Octafish]

53. They're, generally, more right wing than the FBI.

Ask Abraham Bolden, the first African American SS agent on the Presidential detail. He quit before Dallas because of racism and the animus toward JFK.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6544843&mesg_id=6545787

[HiPointDem]

4. don't ss have to take an oath to protect & defend the constitution/nation? how do secessionists get

that job?

[just1voice]

41. Good question, apparently anti-Americans are welcome

as secessionists tend to be anti-American as they profess to wanting to leave the United States.

[Cooley Hurd]

6. This is the same loser that was checking out Sarah Palin...

...and he's from Dallas. It makes me wonder about this incident:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3192181

Police were told to stop screening people for weapons before the rally began.

[freshwest]

36. 'Police were told to stop screening people for weapons before the rally began.'

Obama had better not ride in any convertibles with the would-be boyfriends of Sister Palin guarding him.

I was in the seventh grade when JFK was killed in Dallas. I will never forget that failure and don't want to see it again.

He's been far too generous with the GOP leftovers because he believes the best of anyone.

This crap just makes me wanna puke. I can't believe that this country is being run like this now.

[Scuba]

7. Sounds like this guy was vetted by the same people who vetted Sister Sarah.

[PSPS]

10. Obama kept Bush's appointees, so this is no surprise.

It's traditional that all political appointees are ordered to tender their resignations when a new administration is inaugurated. Obama broke that tradition, so this is what you get. Most federal agencies still have "Brownies" running them.

[MADem]

17. They aren't appointees like "political appointees." They apply for civil service positions.

There can be influences as to who is hired, depending on who is in the WH, but they keep their jobs until retirement.

I have a relative who came in during the waning days of LBJ and retired at the end of Reagan/start of Bush One. He guarded all manner of people, and was frequently seen in pictures with Presidents or their spouses. His proud granny cut out every damn picture she could find of the guy and kept them in a little book.

[EC]

18. Do all appointees have to be approved

by the Senate? If so, how many of those posts would have been left open?

[NYC Liberal]

21. Is he an appointee or does he have a civil service position?

[JoePhilly]

26. You don't actually think that everyone working for the federal government offers to resign every ...

time the President changes, do you?

Obama didn't break any tradition.

Geeze.

[TomClash]

11. Just sayin'

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[orpupilofnature57]

15. Good point !

[kath]

39. That video is so utterly chilling.

I could barely stand to watch it again. What. The. Fuck.???????
What was going on there????????????????????

[progressoid]

12. For fuck's sake is right.

How do these guys get hired?

[marshall gaines]

13. confused

They're confused

[orpupilofnature57]

14. We get the police , they agree to.

[EFerrari]

16. It could be called hypocrisy but for that

you need a degree of self-awareness. So, stupid is probably closer.

[secondvariety]

19. At least he's been fired.

And his wife will get half his pension when they divorce.

[Lizzie Poppet]

20. Sorry, but I can't say I see much of a downside...

Sorry, but I can't say I see much of a downside to Texas seceding. Just sayin'...

[Sirveri]

35. neither can I, retake the house and gain two Senators. Plus a Presidential lock

Go ahead TX, secede. Make a little fund for all the liberals who want to flee the state.

[Dustlawyer]

62. Sorry to disappoint

"A little fund for us to leave the state," i don't think so. There are more and more liberals being created here everyday. We have been living under the Republican dream for many years. Our debt is around 25 billion, education cut to the bone, social services cut ... We have one of the largest Hispanic populations in the country, and whole lot of poor.
People are starting to wake up, including gun toting "Bubbas.". If the DNC would fight here a little you might be surprised! American 1st, Texan 2nd.

[kentauros]

48. Then you haven't really thought it through.

Please, do try.

[kentauros]

58. If you truly have thought it through,

then why joke about it at all?

I am curious, though. If you really have thought through the whole process of something as ultimately ludicrous as Texas seceding from the Union, then you should have anticipated reactions like mine from Texas Liberals. If you consider my reaction as condescending, then you haven't been paying attention to the almost daily beating Texas (as well as Florida) gets on DU.

Therefore, I would note that my remark is one of exasperation with my so-called "fellow Liberals." Would you really expect me to not react that way under such circumstances?

[JVS]

22. I'm shocked at the low clearance standards they have for this job.

[mahina]

23. Like Forrest's mama says,

stupid is as stupid does.

[Pharaoh]

24. they can kiss their plush retirements and

social security and medicare goodbye then, good luck with that guys ...................siyonara!!

[Initech]

25. How is this not treason???

[The Wizard]

28. Sell Texas back to Mexico for

some beads and trinkets. The Austin can secede from Texas.

[kentauros]

49. In a word,

No.

[dballance]

29. Let them go - good riddance

I wish we'd let TX and the other red states that suck more money than they pay go be on their own. Let them form their own nations. Good luck to you once you and none of your citizens get funds from the US.

[MichaelMcGuire]

46. What is the current financial picture of Texas?

In the Black or Red.

[kentauros]

50. It was majorly in the red when Dumbya left.

And we've had some crisis since then with Perry's "administration".

I'm no expert on it, so I would suggest moseying on over to the Texas Group and asking my fellow Texans

[MichaelMcGuire]

59. Good thinking (nt)

[Alexander]

30. Wait a minute...his father was a Secret Service agent in Dallas?

Was the father in the Secret Service in 1963?

[demgrrrll]

31. Not surprised at all.

[NBachers]

32. Don't bother seceding, just move on down to Columbia and farm himself out to drug lords.

[JI7]

33. does he think Prostitution will become legal in Texas if it secedes ?

[JI7]

34. I kept imagining these guys to be mostly younger without many years on the job

but this seems even worse . if it was mostly younger types i would think that standards went down in recent years and they just need to improve again.

[barbtries]

66. i've thought since the story broke

that it was probably business as usual and had been for years. at least republican years. guess i'm getting cynical in my old age.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

37. Is it OK for any of us to want one of those bumper stickers?

[nadinbrzezinski]

38. I have had contact with the SS

This is nothing like I remember. Did the standards drop before DHS or after DHS?

This is nothing like I remember.

[Ian David]

52. Bush started recruiting Secret Service agents from Regent University. n/t

[Joe the Revelator]

54. When did yo have contact with the SS?

[sylvi]

40. It's a crazy old world.

Full of crazy people.

[DonCoquixote]

42. With all due respect

Yes, i know texas has some great liberals. Every day, I wish Molly Ivins were still here, but the day texas does secede, it will find itself becoming part of Mexico overnight.

[UpYourMedsNow]

43. America needs to hold a vote on secession of Texas and other states

Texas and a few other states want to leave, ok grant them their wish. America holds a vote along with Texas, if the majority 50%+1 want it, then they are free to go.

What is the point of staying if they are that unhappy?

[cali]

44. uh, no we don't need to hold a vote on secession

it's a tiny minority of assholes who want to secede. Why dignify the radical positions of a few with a nationwide referendum?

[UpYourMedsNow]

45. If it were a tiny amout as your contend

this would not be news at all.

Texas secession has been brought up regularly by the people of Texas for over 30 years now.

I am not from Texas but I believe that if they want to go their own way, they can go.

It is like being in a bad marriage, why stay married if one or both parties are miserable?

[cali]

55. hahahaha. right. sure. because the MSM never blows shit all out of proportion.

Vermont secession has been brought up regularly by the people of Vermont for over 20 years now. I am a Vermonter. I know it's a greater proportion of Vermonters who want secession than Texans. It's still a tiny minority.

This is ridiculous. And no, of course it's not like a bad marriage.

phaw.

[4th law of robotics]

60. Westboro Baptist Church makes the news all the time

way more than Texas secession.

I suppose most people agree with them.

I'm not sure if you're joking or not but Texas secessionists have always been a tiny minority. A lot of people joke about it perhaps, but very few actually want to secede.

[Fastcars]

65. Good thing those in power didn't agree with you in the past.....

Heck a bunch of states got together and did vote to secede. Seems it caused a bit of an argument and things got a might bit ugly.

[Rozlee]

64. In a poll once, 29% of Texans wanted to secede.

My jaw dropped when I saw a picture of a bunch of secessionists plodding around the capitol in an Examiner.com article. I'm know I'm going to get panned for being so cruel, but seriously, some of those guys were so out of shape, they had their own event horizons. If this is their secessionist army, they'll need plenty of breaks to catch their breaths in between storming Ft. Hood.

http://www.examiner.com/article/sovereignty-or-secession-movement-sweeps-texas-capitol

[mfcorey1]

47. Some chillingly scary stuff!! There needs to be an intense revetting of the President's

security team. The flagrant abuse of established rules by some in the Service makes conspiracy theorists, like myself, teeter on the edge.

[Octafish]

51. GOOGLE Abraham Bolden ...

The first African American to serve in the SS got the Treatment and then, after the assassination of President Kennedy, was railroaded into the pen for telling the truth.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6544843&mesg_id=6545787

[newspeak]

57. ya'll remember when little boots and cheney cleaned house?

Remember those generals that didn't agree with their grand plans, gone. Remember when they purged the CIA and FBI and put more of their crazies in the judicial system? I thought that when Pres. Obama took office he would clean house; he needed to clean house for his and his family's own safety.

My great uncle was a body guard to FDR and he was a damn good democrat. My great aunt was secretary to democratic senator carl hayden. After Kennedy's assassination, it seems that one would be more concerned who is protecting the president. After all, those batshite crazy wing nuts were handing out fliers before kennedy was murdered called kennedy a traitor and threatened to kill him. I'm thinking the boys from texas (isn't that what nixon called them?) aided in pushing the agenda.

If little boots could purge any decent, honest agent out of the agency, I don't see why Obama can't hire them back, including those in the military. Unless we are so far gone, that those on the hill aren't calling the shots anymore.

[Octafish]

61. Have you seen this video from Love Field, newspeak?

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Octafish/630

PS: How different the last decade would be were Paul Wellstone still with us.