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kentuck

(111,098 posts)
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 07:38 PM Dec 2014

What is in the report that we have not already heard about??

Why are they worried about what will happen overseas? Haven't we all heard about the torture and the waterboarding, etc? Hasn't every terrorist in the world heard about it?

Haven't they heard about Abu Graib?

What could possibly be in there that they have not heard about??

I think most of the fear-mongering may be to protect the CIA and their leaders here at home, rather than what might happen abroad.

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HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
1. The Fear?? It's more about HERE than THERE.
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 07:41 PM
Dec 2014

Jeez, Berkley was burning over a grand jury result in NY.

Imagine what will happen when the US finds that it's government tortured hundreds of people to justify a smoking gun in the form of a non-existant mushroom cloud.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
2. Maybe it's worse than what even we know.
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 07:41 PM
Dec 2014

Once you cross the line into dehumanizing another human being, where does it stop?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
7. Do you think that the average American even understands torture and what it could involve?
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 07:53 PM
Dec 2014

I am thinking rape etc. Possible rape of children in front of their parents and such. If that gets out there I would think that many will be very upset with the so called good guys that run our government.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
8. I'm already upset with them, so if this is what it takes to
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 08:15 PM
Dec 2014

put the Bush Administration, the whole sociopathic lot of them, under investigation for war crimes, I'm all for it. Maybe this is what is needed to finally clean out the corruption in Washington. Fortunately, Obama put a stop to as much of this as he could right after taking office, so hopefully he won't be held responsible too.

Stardust

(3,894 posts)
10. I'm fairly certain that line was crossed and reported by Seymour Hersh In 2004
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 11:39 PM
Dec 2014

Seymour Hersh says the US government has videotapes of boys being sodomized at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq... Hersh says there was "a massive amount of criminal wrongdoing that was covered up at the highest command out there, and higher."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/07/14/38300/-Kids-sodomized-at-Abu-Ghraib-Pentagon-has-the-videos-Hersh#

And sadly, in this day and age, I'm afraid most Americans do understand torture.

2naSalit

(86,634 posts)
4. "...to protect the CIA and their leaders here at home, rather than what might happen abroad."
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 07:44 PM
Dec 2014

Precisely, they surely don't give two sh*ts about what anyone else thinks abroad. In fact, all this flurry of concern, I think, is just another prelude to yet more MIC money-making ploy. They keep making sure there are "reasons" for sending out more troops and armament... A never-ending vicious cycle that perpetuates endless war for profit.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
5. It could affect our negotiations with Iran, whose leaders may have to save face
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 07:50 PM
Dec 2014

with hardliners. That's what Kerry fears.

It may provoke riots around the word.

But I think we need to brace ourselves, and take our lumps.

blm

(113,063 posts)
6. It's about Iran and their leading role in confronting ISIL and doing it
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 07:52 PM
Dec 2014

in cooperation with us through Kerry's negotiations….negotiations that also include a deal on the table for curtailing their nuclear program.

People aren't thinking about all those levels because the corporate media hasn't focused any attention on those advancements being made in our warming relationship with Iran. They are waiting to ONLY report on any problems that occur along the way. If they can report that the entire effort was a HUGE FAILURE and Kerry and Obama are the ones to blame, then expect wall-to-wall coverage.

It will NEVER be Bush's fault for the corporate media.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
11. Not to mention that the PTB don't want a deal with Iran, so tanking this deal isn't seen as a
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 11:46 PM
Dec 2014

negative to them. Why do you think Obama kept the deal a secret for so long? He knew there would be pushback from a lot of interest groups/PTB/Oil companies, etc. and they would try and tank the deal.

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