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ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 07:17 PM Dec 2014

BREAKING: 2,000 Marines on alert ahead of torture report release

Just now on msnbc... 2,000 Marines in posts around the world on alert tonight ahead of the Senate Oversight Committee's release of the so-called "Torture report". There is concern the release of the report will cause a violent response from people and groups.

shrub's face on now working against the report's release.

When will Darth Cheeney rear it's ugly head?

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BREAKING: 2,000 Marines on alert ahead of torture report release (Original Post) ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 OP
What will they be alert for? NightWatcher Dec 2014 #1
Violent response to the report from people who may take offense to it. It's a breaking ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #5
They are a rapid deployment force for contingencies at embassies or installations. nt MADem Dec 2014 #12
thanks to this gang ... napkinz Dec 2014 #2
They're on alert because they fear an attack against an embassy or installation MADem Dec 2014 #3
Thanks for helping to bring more information to this breaking news, MADem. nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #6
Any time. nt MADem Dec 2014 #19
thanks NightWatcher Dec 2014 #7
I would guess that a lot of folks are working double-time... kentuck Dec 2014 #4
I'm not convinced it will be released. If I thought I'd have an appetite for a ball cap ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #9
I think they're worried about the other side of this story--the "after the report is released" part. MADem Dec 2014 #20
there are what? 190+ nations and independent territories??? HereSince1628 Dec 2014 #8
I'm sure they're not expecting trouble in all 190+ countries. I imagine they've ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #10
Considering the political flak involved, I suspect it's hyperbole based on 1 email HereSince1628 Dec 2014 #11
It's actually more than 6,000 Marines pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #13
So our world wide response is... a couple battalions BENGHAZII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HereSince1628 Dec 2014 #14
+1 nt MADem Dec 2014 #22
6,350, and here is where they are located. uppityperson Dec 2014 #17
In most countries, we can rely on the host government to provide protection. MADem Dec 2014 #15
2000 to 6000 is really very little considering the number of sites that COULD be involved HereSince1628 Dec 2014 #21
I am certain the USMC assets attached to State Department sites have been keyed up for awhile. MADem Dec 2014 #24
The "alert" means as little as an email was sent HereSince1628 Dec 2014 #25
That doesn't follow logic. Why call attention to the report at all in this fashion? MADem Dec 2014 #30
Maybe those 2,000 tortured people Politicalboi Dec 2014 #16
American boys in danger again Generic Other Dec 2014 #18
Embassy staff? Our career foreign service are not greedy evil men. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #23
I meant Bush and Cheney Generic Other Dec 2014 #35
When did career foreign service (Chris Stevens) become "greedy, evil men" to you? blm Dec 2014 #27
I meant Bush and Cheney Generic Other Dec 2014 #36
i think its more like "trying to prevent damage after the actions of greedy etc." elehhhhna Dec 2014 #29
Yes. I most certainly meant to give credit Generic Other Dec 2014 #37
fear factory working overtime KG Dec 2014 #26
Thanks, Dick, Don, George. You muthefukkers. elehhhhna Dec 2014 #28
umm. you are right. I don't think riversedge Dec 2014 #31
This just in: Dismissing Senate Report, Cheney Defends C.I.A. Interrogations pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #32
ok. i will take a peek riversedge Dec 2014 #33
I hope our Soldiers and embassies are stay safe. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #34
Why are they treating Muslims like idiots? nilesobek Dec 2014 #38
 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
5. Violent response to the report from people who may take offense to it. It's a breaking
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 07:23 PM
Dec 2014

item, I'm just reporting it for DU.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. They're on alert because they fear an attack against an embassy or installation
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 07:22 PM
Dec 2014
http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/08/politics/marines-on-alert-ahead-of-release-of-senate-torture-report/index.html?hpt=us_c2

The Marines are all part of contingency response forces positioned in key areas to respond to a crisis. The alert status means the units are put on a shorter readiness time to be available and capable of deploying to a crisis such as an embassy or U.S. base coming under threat. Those exact warning times remain classified, but the Marines can be able of deploying within just a few hours of being notified.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
4. I would guess that a lot of folks are working double-time...
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 07:22 PM
Dec 2014

...in an attempt to create some sort of crisis that will prevent the Senate from releasing the report?

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
9. I'm not convinced it will be released. If I thought I'd have an appetite for a ball cap
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 07:28 PM
Dec 2014

I would probably make a bet to eat it if they actually release the report.

I'm not craving dining on a ball cap, tho.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
20. I think they're worried about the other side of this story--the "after the report is released" part.
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 07:53 PM
Dec 2014

Letting people know that there's shit so worrisome in that report that we need to put the USMC fast reaction teams on high alert isn't a way to depress interest.

If anything, this news whets appetites--it makes people more curious, not less, about what's in that document.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
8. there are what? 190+ nations and independent territories???
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 07:27 PM
Dec 2014

2000 really suggests very little across all US embassids and consulates

An email, there might be some strong reaction? and 2000 guys are alerted

It's just BS.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
10. I'm sure they're not expecting trouble in all 190+ countries. I imagine they've
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 07:30 PM
Dec 2014

determined which ones need additional security and others guarding embassies elsewhere have been ordered to be alert for trouble.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
11. Considering the political flak involved, I suspect it's hyperbole based on 1 email
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 07:34 PM
Dec 2014

2000 marines is really quite small. It's hardly streteched company strength at 20 locations.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
13. It's actually more than 6,000 Marines
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 07:40 PM
Dec 2014
The Marines on alert include approximately:

• 2,000 Marines which make up a contingency response force for Africa. They are stationed routinely in Sigonella, Italy and Morón, Spain.

• 2,000 Marines stationed in the Middle East as a response force for that region. Some are already on duty in Iraq and Kuwait.

• 2,200 Marines as part of an at-sea Marine expeditionary force currently on several ships in the Arabian Sea and Gulf of Aden.

• Three teams of about 50 Marines each in Spain, Bahrain and Japan that are trained to reinforce U.S. embassies under threat.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/12/08/politics/marines-on-alert-ahead-of-release-of-senate-torture-report/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
17. 6,350, and here is where they are located.
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 07:46 PM
Dec 2014
http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/08/politics/marines-on-alert-ahead-of-release-of-senate-torture-report/index.html?hpt=us_c2
The Marines on alert include approximately:
• 2,000 Marines which make up a contingency response force for Africa. They are stationed routinely in Sigonella, Italy and Morón, Spain.
• 2,000 Marines stationed in the Middle East as a response force for that region. Some are already on duty in Iraq and Kuwait.
• 2,200 Marines as part of an at-sea Marine expeditionary force currently on several ships in the Arabian Sea and Gulf of Aden.
• Three teams of about 50 Marines each in Spain, Bahrain and Japan that are trained to reinforce U.S. embassies under threat.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
15. In most countries, we can rely on the host government to provide protection.
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 07:45 PM
Dec 2014

There's no fear of the British or French governments not coming to our aid should we be attacked, for example. In fact, most countries would be quick to respond to any kind of attempt at a breach--all they'd need is a request for support from embassy staff.

In a few countries, though--and if you think on it, you can probably pick them out, we need a fair amount of Marines present in embassies/consulates as well as a fast reaction team that can get to them to help them out in the event that the host government is unwilling/unable to assist.

You'd be surprised what a small group of well-armed and well-trained servicemembers can do if needs must.

Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

I don't agree with your "BS" assessment. Why would they call attention to this? It's completely in reaction to the impending release of the torture report, even if they were trying to quash it, saying "There's shit so bad in that thing that we have to put the USMC on alert" isn't the way to deflect attention from it.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
21. 2000 to 6000 is really very little considering the number of sites that COULD be involved
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 07:54 PM
Dec 2014

I'd be quite surprised if 500-1000 of them weren't on location in the Green Zone Embassy in Baghdad.

Give a couple more hundred to protect American sites in Kabul and what does that leave for other hot spots?

I'm sticking to the notion that an email was sent out to EVERY marine unit involved with embassy and consulate protection.

This release has been coming form months. The respons is looking like Meh

MADem

(135,425 posts)
24. I am certain the USMC assets attached to State Department sites have been keyed up for awhile.
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 08:00 PM
Dec 2014

These guys are "spares" -- see pinboy3niner's post elsewhere in the thread. These assets are usually parked at a military installation, they'll provide zoned protection on their installations for SCIFs, for example, but their main event, their raison d'etre, is to respond to contingencies like these.

In most places, we can depend on the host nation for support. There are just a few that would get sketchy on us and perhaps leave us hanging.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
25. The "alert" means as little as an email was sent
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 08:03 PM
Dec 2014

there's no indication of anything more.

This is hyperbole.

A last attempt to stop the release of a highly redacted summary.


BENGAHZIIIII!


MADem

(135,425 posts)
30. That doesn't follow logic. Why call attention to the report at all in this fashion?
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 08:17 PM
Dec 2014

To me, it sounds more like the release of the report is becoming more--not less--likely, and the Department of State and DOD are preparing for that possibility.

riversedge

(70,239 posts)
31. umm. you are right. I don't think
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 08:25 PM
Dec 2014

we have heard from darth v. for a while. But, have to admit, I usually ignore that jerk.

nilesobek

(1,423 posts)
38. Why are they treating Muslims like idiots?
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 04:34 AM
Dec 2014

The whole Muslim world has been hip to our torture crap for quite some time. This is hyperbole. The American people are the only ones left who don't know the truth, and the guilty obviously want to keep it that way.

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