What part of "if there were no torture, there would be no need for a

[shraby]

report" don't dissenters to the release understand?
Everyone knows there was torture, Cheney has bragged about it, Bush as acknowledged it, and the photos were all over the intertubes a long time ago.

What is not known yet (and I have my doubts we won't get a watered version) is how much worse it was than what we believed. We do know it was bad when they waterboarded one person an ungodly number of times. We do know they destroyed evidence which should have landed them in prison for destroying evidence. We do know the perps are walking free yet.

[Kalidurga]

1. Look how can we have a war against the people if we don't allow torture?

First we stop torturing the enemy then all the sudden civilians are going to have the same demands. People will do crazy things like demonstrate in the streets against police brutality. That would be bad ya know.








just in case

[nichomachus]

2. If they weren't doing anything wrong, they don't have anything to fear

Isn't that the way that goes?

[Ms. Toad]

3. The "XYZ" warns us that releasing the report will incite violence meme really angers me.

It is not releasing the report that will incite violence - it is the despicable actions we engaged (described in the reports) which will incite violence, particularly if our posture continues to be to justify the actions we took.

A little humility, honesty, and acknowledgement that we stepped over the line would go a long way toward easing the tensions to which our actions have already contributed. Continuing to cover up those actions does not do anyone any good.

[Electric Monk]

4. How disgustingly awful must the truth be if they'd rather leave it to our collective imagination? nt