Third Way, Elizabeth Warren, And The Real Battle In Our Party
However, this isn't really mainly a battle between progressives and "centrists" for the soul of the Democratic party, although there is certainly an element of that, and it is certainly understandable for reporters to talk about it in those traditional political battle terms. But what this is more fundamentally about is a battle between the biggest special interest corporations in the world, who tend to have overwhelming sway over everything in Washington, and those of us who want to confront and rein in their power.
Those interests know they control the Republicans, because Republicans answer to money first and foremost. But Democrats have DNA and ancient roots from ancestors like Tom Paine, Tom Jefferson, Andy Jackson, William Jennings Bryan, FDR, Harry Truman, and the Kennedys -- people who distrusted the big financial firms based in New York, distrusted big corporate trusts in general -- and that DNA is a continuing problem for these Wall Street conglomerates.
The think tanks and political committees they fund on the Democratic side -- in the Clinton era their lead group was the DLC, now it's Third Way -- are asked by the big money guys to come to their defense when the populists start to rise up and upset their applecart, and they do. Yes, this is undeniably a battle between two different wings of the Democratic party, the people wing and the money wing. But it is even more centrally a fight between Wall Street and big business on the one hand, and the politicians who might threaten them -- like Elizabeth Warren.
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And boy, do they hate the idea of so many people being excited about Elizabeth Warren's common sense populism, so they really needed their friends at Third Way to try and take her down a couple of notches (and throwing in a shot across the bow at Wall Street's new mayor was an important political message, too.) Just like during last year's campaign, when Wall Street was desperate to defeat Warren, so they got Third Way to issue a scathing statement against her that the Chamber of Commerce and other Republican hit groups immediately used against her, Wall Street needed Third Way to come through, and they did.
http://crooksandliars.com/mike-lux/third-way-elizabeth-warren-and-real
The Third Way is real, and they are right here. They are relentless, and they will lie, cheat, steal, and sell their mothers to the highest bidder if it would help them crush democracy before it has the slightest chance to get any sort of foothold.
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I think they've been funding both sides of wars since Napoleon. There's plenty out there about them. Sounds like the same tactic but in our government.
are relentless as well. As if we didn't enough of this shit coming from the Republicans now they've infested the Democratic Party. Funny thing is once you start using facts against their arguments they tend disengage.
I wish we could name names so we could all keep track but since that's not feasible, we pay the price of unending vigilance. Their tactics give the Republicans a run for their money. Don't fall for it.
Here's an example:
"You see, some Democrats can be for guns (see: Vermont Dems) while others will want to regulate them (see: NYC Dems).
But both Vermont Dems and NYC Dems would likely be for raising the minimum wage.
See how that works?"
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OR, they could hug all the guns they want and still lose like Alison Grimes in Kentucky.
And I didn't know there were any Dem's against raising the minimum wage.
This crap continues at a more subdued level on DU but still very very very consistent. You almost want to agree with them just to make them shut up.
You know how Warren voted because Warren has been honest about it, but that doesn't mean you also really know how Hillary voted. You are assuming.
As I have posted to you before, Hillary put Reagan on her list of ten best Presidents in US history (along with her husband and eight others). If she didn't vote for the man she truly thought was the one of the ten best Presidents in US history, just because he was a Republican, what kind of American would that make her? In any event, she sure gives him some good press. And, if she lied about whether she thought Reagan was one of the ten best Presidents in US history just to get votes for herself, what kind of American and person would that make her? If a candidate for President of the US lied about who the 10 best US Presidents ever were, in some pipe dream of gaining a few Republican votes for herself, how could one trust her campaigning on anything? Either way, you'll probably never know for certain how Hillary voted.
And, Hillary's intimate connection with the The Family doesn't bother you, either? How do you think the Senators and members of the House in that group felt about AIDs funding?
I am very sure that you are much more attuned to the gay community than I am, but I know many gays who voted for Nader in 2000 precisely because of Bubba and DADT and DOMA. When Hillary was campaigning in 2008, some gays confronted her, saying that they had voted for Bubba with high hopes and then were crushed by his actions. Her reply? "I thought we did very well." (Yep, "we," not "he."
If you don't like Warren, fine. (I have reservations about all politicians including Warren and Sanders. Just not much of an unconditional hero worshipper.) Then, support someone else. That someone else does not have to be Sanders. But that someone else doesn't have to be Hillary, especially, if, as you say, you don't like Hillary much, either. The two of them are not the entire universe of possible Democratic nominees. Neither of them has even said she's running yet, ffs. If it ever actually gets down to a choice between Warren and Hillary IRL, fine. Do whatever ya gotta do to protect yourself and your loved ones and what you believe in. Meanwhile, support your fave. JMO
